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13 January, 2010 at 6:29 am #426563
@florrie wrote:
The majority of these offenders are not mentally disturbed, they are the abused who then become the abuser.
Also It is well documented that once a person becomes a paedophile they are always a paedophile.I think its just worth pointing out that not all abused childen become abusers
13 January, 2010 at 8:00 am #426564@cath 55 wrote:
@bat wrote:
Cath i know of the person called “daddy” your refering too in chat. He uses names like “tempted daddy” and “perverted daddy” to name but a few. And you spoke to him? Why? :?
i;m not sure how it came about to be honest bat, i normally leave the door to my box welded shut lol, but for some reason it was unlocked? anyway, i had a freind of mine round and was showing her jc she thought he was a wind up (she said it wasnt for her in the end lol) and it was her that he began talking too, anyway i went to make a cuppa or pour a drink or someat and he popped up , there is no way i would have gone into chat with him under normal circumstances, i know exactly what his chat names imply- which leads me to wonder why it isnt booted on sight? another subject ay lol
hope you and yours are well hunnie xxxx
I always booted him on site Cath and I’m sure the other guides do as well if they see him.
As for me well I’m ok, but the rest is a bit dubious at the moment. I’m a tough old Bat, I’ll cope. :lol:13 January, 2010 at 11:18 am #426565@cath 55 wrote:
………. I normally leave the door to my box welded shut ……….
Well thank God you do Cath – you never know what might get in there when you’re not looking!
13 January, 2010 at 1:22 pm #426566@forumhostpb wrote:
@cath 55 wrote:
………. I normally leave the door to my box welded shut ……….
Well thank God you do Cath – you never know what might get in there when you’re not looking!
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13 January, 2010 at 6:40 pm #426567Let’s get back on track shall we. Perverted prats in a chat room are just the tip of an ever increasing iceberg.
actually, am deleting that post as it was a very poorly constructed argument to some of the comments on this thread.
13 January, 2010 at 8:14 pm #426568OK… i am going to try again
Firstly, we are talking about people who may or may not have serious mental issues. But if they are mentally disturbed then that is taken into account both in sentencing and also in whether they are safe to release into society.
People with mental illness who commit crimes, for the sake of this particular approach to altering the sentencing guidelines, need to be placed on one side.
Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that they are “not” mentally ill. They are disturbed, but they are considered by the medical profession to have capacity. Erm.. that kind of means that they are cognitive enough to know what they did and to understand that it was wrong and against the law.
OK… then, discount the family and relatives. If someone commits a crime of the kind we are discussing, the family cannot be considered. I know that in other cases, the dependency of relatives can be an issue where sentencing is concerned, but leniency because of a dependant relative would just give people the excuse to commit crime.
So.. we are trying to think of a way to sentence criminals of serious crime against babies and children which will be a deterrant to others. In the badly thought out post that I deleted, I mentioned the fact that the perpetrators of such crimes could have been committing crimes from the time they themselves were children. We know children of 10 and 11 can be responsible for terrible things. They can also be subjected to terrors.
It is the responsibility of the Judge when handing out sentencing to take into account previous crime, background, reports from psychiatrists etc etc. I don’t think we can go into each and every possibility. What we have to do is to work out a way to word a request that serious and repeated torture and abuse of children should be punished in the most extreme manner possible within our sentencing guidelines in an effort to disuade others from committing similar crimes. PB said that they are all afraid of being caught. I actually believe that they DO NOT THINK THEY WILL BE.
We need to make them afraid to do what they want to do.
13 January, 2010 at 8:38 pm #426569Lock them up till they die or shoot them .. reasoned enough argument for me
13 January, 2010 at 8:40 pm #426570I have vague memories of reading somewhere about a study done on convicted paedophiles that opted for chemical castration and I seem to recall none of them re-offended, and a quite a few of them thought it woud help reduce paedophillia.
I think most people agree there is no real detterent in the sentencing as is, and I think mimins right each case should be treated according to the history, and factors in a case, but for me if chemical castration prevents that person from reoffending then it`s a good idea.
I am all for giving people a chance, and beleive everyone has rights, but when we`re talking about people that abuse and kill children then I`m sorry they lose all rights.
13 January, 2010 at 9:04 pm #426571I think chemical castration is a way of releasing people back into society as “safe”. I don’t know how much of a deterrant it would be. Now the real thing… that might work, but I doubt it would be allowed.
actually, on second thoughts, maybe that is exactly what we ought to be considering. I have a sneaking feeling I have read a paper on castration though and it didn’t stop people who really wanted to hurt others, in fact it made them worse. The fact is that a lot of these crimes are not really about sex, but more about power, control and violence.
13 January, 2010 at 9:19 pm #426572These people fiddle with and hurt and damage children even fucking animals dont do that.. they should be put down
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