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sure they wont be as shocking as yours pro ira guy you still using that name you support a group that kills innocents rember that before you get on your high horse mr harp aka pro ira guy
@milkman of human kindness wrote:
sure they wont be as shocking as yours pro ira guy you still using that name you support a group that kills innocents rember that before you get on your high horse mr harp aka pro ira guy
Is this where you derail yet another thread, you needy little man. With your needy little tit for tat lies. Next time you post your racist bile at 2am, plssed. I will do a Blossom, screen shoot it and report you and secondly, post it on this board. This conversation is also over because I really do know how you crave attention.
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caught bang to rights
an interesting discussion, with good posts from Ms K, Wanda and Mr Harp.
Do you know if any Asian/black groups think that the use of gollies is racist, and if so why?.
Ms K, as a fully paid-up member of the Gillingham KKK (does her bum look big in this bed-sheet?), doesn’t seem to be sure.
@sceptical guy wrote:
an interesting discussion, with good posts from Ms K, Wanda and Mr Harp.
Do you know if any Asian/black groups think that the use of gollies is racist, and if so why?.
Ms K, as a fully paid-up member of the Gillingham KKK (does her bum look big in this bed-sheet?), doesn’t seem to be sure.
It is interesting, maybe it’s also a generation thing. My neighbour, who is black and a lot younger than me, is far more offended by being told what is offensive or not by the PC brigade, that could be because of far less exposure to the racism that was abundant years ago. I do recall black friends being extremely offended in the 80’s before it became the issue it is today. I also think it is irrelevant what the dolls are called now because racists tainted the brand anyway.
Out of boredom I googled it and it was quite interesting. The original author described golliwogs as “a horrid sight, the blackest gnome”, and dolls made were rather grotesque to reflect that, over time their appearance was altered to the, if you like, cuddly images on the Jam jar.
My simple logic is, if a senior white manager wore a golliwog tie, or had a golliwog tea mug, at work today, I suspect his or her black colleagues would be extremely offended.
*hides me golliwog brooch form the Robinson’s jamjar, worn since 1961
It shows where the dolls came from and how they got their name – not racists at all.
So it is in the minds of people and easy to change if people were made aware that the name comes from a combination of Egyptian workers Arabic nickname was GHULS and the nickname WOGS which was on their arm bands which stood for Working On Government Service.
Just like the swastika – originally from Asia and a symbol of well-being – found in many architecture around the world – and throughout Britain.
Taken over by the Nazi’s and now seen as their sign. But none of the buildings have changed as they know it was before Hitler and if taken down now it gives power to racists, just like banning dolls today.Kids only see racism when its shown to them, if they see dolls as dolls it will curb racism, if shown these are meant to be an insult, then those inclined that way will use it for that purpose.
@irish_lucy wrote:
It shows where the dolls came from and how they got their name – not racists at all.
So it is in the minds of people and easy to change if people were made aware that the name comes from a combination of Egyptian workers Arabic nickname was GHULS and the nickname WOGS which was on their arm bands which stood for Working On Government Service.
Just like the swastika – originally from Asia and a symbol of well-being – found in many architecture around the world – and throughout Britain.
Taken over by the Nazi’s and now seen as their sign. But none of the buildings have changed as they know it was before Hitler and if taken down now it gives power to racists, just like banning dolls today.Kids only see racism when its shown to them, if they see dolls as dolls it will curb racism, if shown these are meant to be an insult, then those inclined that way will use it for that purpose.
Or alternatively-
Contrary to popular belief, this did not start off as a racist pejorative, but was an acronym dating from the British Raj in India used to Identify Indians working for the Government. The acronym stood for Working On Government Service and those who were employed in that role wore an armbands with the acronym WOGS written on it.
Now, however, the original meaning has now largely been forgotten and the four commonest uses of the word “wogs” are as follows:
1. A pejorative noun for people who are non-white or of mixed race;
2. A noun used by certain xenophobic British people to describe anyone who is not British e.g. “Wogs begin at Calais.”;
3. A noun used by narrow-minded, londoncemtric fvckwits to describe anyone who does not live in London;
4. A verb meaning to steal, “He wogs sandwiches off his mates.” means he steals sandwiches from his friends, and unpleasant racist inference that all non-white people are thieves;
Stolen from the Urban Dictionary and no I haven’t included all the various links.
the fate of my brooch turns on the outcome of this debate!
@sceptical guy wrote:
the fate of my brooch turns on the outcome of this debate!
You could just wear it while casually sauntering around places like St Paul’s, South London or Manningham in Bradford. I say that because I doubt you’ll find the answer here.
Good luck with that research.
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