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    On Wednesday, Feb. 9, former NBA player John Amaechi made headlines around the world when he became the first professional basketball player to openly identify himself as gay.

    Amaechi, whose career with the NBA ended three years ago, spent five seasons in the NBA with Orlando, Utah and Cleveland.

    On Feb. 14, former Miami Heat guard Tim Hardaway said on a radio show that he would not want a gay player on his team.

    “You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known,” Hardaway said. “I don’t like gay people and I don’t like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don’t like it. It shouldn’t be in the world or in the United States.”

    Hardaway went on to say that he would distance himself from a gay teammate, and that he does not think a gay man should be allowed in a locker room.

    The Gateway spoke with athletes on campus, to see what they had to say about Hardaway’s comments.

    http://media.www.unogateway.com/media/storage/paper968/news/2007/02/20/People/Maverick.Athletes.Respond.To.Tim.Hardaways.AntiGay.Remarks-2730466.shtml

    Homophobism has nothing to do with hatred, but hetrosexuals are constantly told their “bad” people if they dislike homosexuals and homosexuality.

    Human beings being what they are, just dont always like someone of a different sexual preference, colour or nationality, thats part of our human make-up.

    It is a personal human right of every single individual to be anti-something.

    There are rummors around some professional premiership footballers being bi-sexual or gay. I wont name names, but theres 1 at Portsmouth and 2 at Arsenal. How long before the smell of “cheese” becomes too much?

    #261115

    One of the common socially applied bits of brainwashing on the topic is that someone who dislikes gays is either confused about their own sexuality or is “scared” of gays, the attempts at pop psychology in that is pretty transparent but doesnt really allow for women who dislike gay me, gay men who dislike “mincers” or people who are just disgusted by the acts they commit as part of being homosexual or those who object to it on the grounds that it isnt “natural” in the context of what nature intended

    We dont say people who dislike paedophilia are closet chld molesters even tho the same feeble arguement could be applied, with that and many other dislikes they are allowable, but as long as so many people run in fear of being called a racism, sexist of homophobe for having an inconvenient non trendy view the psychobabble will continue also

    Because of this liberal brainwashing there is little room for any intellectual and purposeful discussion on a whole array of topics ranging from homosexuality and gender reassignment right down to domestic violence, rape and child molestation which IMO results in a delay in solutions to or understanding of those topics being achieved

    personally tho gay people as a homogenous blob dont annoy or bother me, no social group does, but I also wont see them all as loveable fluffy people above reproach just because a bunch of idiotic liberals and academics think anything else isnt trendy

    Some of them are annoying idiots that get right up my nose, some I get on with famously and most fall somewhere between the two, the same dispersal pattern as I have with straight people, men, women, kids, traffic wardens and infact the whole of mankind and all of its subsets

    So being called a homophobe doesnt bother me, if I dislike a gay its not BECAUSE they are gay, its because I find them a tedious and obnoxious person full stop, sometimes their sexuality adds to the reasons for that and in other cases it doesnt

    But ostensively I think its every persons right to like or dislike anyone for whatever reasons they have, thats true liberalism and freedom of choice

    #261116

    the world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same views. live and let live i say and don’t judge people until you take the time to listen, understand, and learn. :!:

    #261117

    Well that SOUNDS like a very good perspective, except for the fact that most people who try to force others to live by it dont even do that themselves and are complete friggin hypocrits

    IF they DID actually apply it they would do all of those things with racists, sexists, homophobes and any other group whos views they dont agree with, but the real ACTUAL ethos they are trying to shovel is

    “don’t judge THE people WE TELL YOU NOT TO JUDGE until you take the time to listen, understand, and learn. BUT EXPECT TO BE JUDGED AND JUDGED AND JUDGED BY US BECAUSE WE DONT LIKE YOUR VIEWS SO NER NER NA NER NER”

    Typical modern liberalism, which is not actually liberal at all unless you think, like and dislike as instructed to

    Free thought is an inconvenience to it

    #261118

    @abbie wrote:

    the world would be a pretty boring place if we all had the same views. live and let live i say and don’t judge people until you take the time to listen, understand, and learn. :!:

    Firstly, ubermik, what a fantastic reply, like Geoff, one of the best replies to a serious thread.

    abbie, it is always important for me to see the individuality in us humans, but that doesn’t mean that we should be told to like a minority just because there is one.

    It is not boring if you are gay in a pub full of gays, like the English coming together to celebrate St George’s day isnt.

    #261119

    Abbie said the same thing but you didn’t praise Abbie hmmmmmmmmmmmm Uber is way kewl but I think this:

    Gay ppl are as different as to men and women – no need to puke Capt Geoffers I’m sure they won’t come on to you – but they are inbetween both genders….they are all human beings and should be treated as such.

    #261120

    LIL, its a subtle point, but the phrase “dont judge others…” yada yada is moreoften used by people who ARE judging someone and their views but who are hypocritically telling them not to be judgemental of others choices

    But in doing so are being judgemental of THAT persons view

    IE A hippy left wing minority hugger would say it to a racist whos views they dislike to tell them they SHOULD like minorities

    Another “liberal” would say it to a homophobe saying they shouldnt dislike gays, despite them hypocritically not liking the homophobe

    If both actually lived by that phrase themselves they would never say it and would respect the racist and homophobes choices, likes and dislikes as they would the gay and minorities

    Thats ACTUAL liberalism and open mindedness

    #261121

    ugo

    Kiss me Geoff quickly :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P

    #261122

    ubermik is my new hero :P

    #261123

    Are you gay then Emma lol :?: :wink:

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