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@tictax wrote:
sumet cath said i found a lil confusing , u speak of trust u had for ur partner yet u wudnt leave him alone with the child, personally i,d of walked
I meant of course when she was small, and, I think most of it was due to the fact I was the one at home and he was the one with the job he worked around the clock virtually, he was a lorry, it was 30 years ago when lorry drivers did work round the clock.
Have to agree with Mims Pete, while people can understand the anger you feel, I can! she’s right, it doesn’t solve anything, stronger and harder punishments need to be set in place. Until theres a politician with the balls to try to start changes then nothing is going to happen, and children like this little one, and baby Peter and going to continue suffering.
I know too, that your going to say that it does solve this issue, that he’d be as dead as the child he killed, but as Mims said, what about when these vigilantes get the wrong person? it happens!
What I truly can’t understand is that when these people are put on trial, and found guilty and sent to prison, the first and very next thing they’re breifs do, is to launch an appeal. It was my understanding, that by going to prison you lost any rights you may have you lose the right to vote don’t you?,,,,,,why are they given so many ”rights”!! Who speaks for the ‘rights’ of these children? where is their justice!
The very sad bottom line Cas is that few people (if any) speak for the rights of murdered or abused children – or indeed for victims of crime generally.
Sexual predators often get some sort of sick thrill out of re-living their disgusting experience and ‘appealing’ against a finding of guilt allows them to re-visit the entire thing all over again. Lawyers (often paid via legal aid) participate in this and sometimes actually encourage their clients to appeal – it makes them another pot of money in fees etc.
@minim wrote:
@pete wrote:
Just give someone a gun with a bullet in it and put that bullet through his/her/their heads, its not that difficult, i’m sure there’d be many volunteers. The world has one or two less monsters in it whats wrong with that.
Pete….. you always say this. But it doesn’t solve anything does it. But, maybe you have a point. Get a vigilante group to wreak vengeance for society. Until they kill your brother, uncle, sister, friend by mistake.
No, we need a legal deterrant. Something stringent enough to make people think twice before they do things. I would like to see something along the lines of making the punishment fit the crime.
Failing that, what about branding? Legal castration?
Any other ideas?
No not a vigilante group, they’ve been found guilty beyond doubt give me the gun i’ll fucking shoot them. There is no legal deterrant these people are sick and evil, they are scum and dont deserve to walk this earth. Castration wont cure child killers and branding is gonna promote vigilante action. Kill the scum
Between July 1963 and October 1965 Hindley and Brady murdered children, they were found guilty in 1966. Now given that life is precious Hindley lived till 2002 at the age of 60 Brady is still alive. You’re gonna tall me these monsters deserved to even draw another single breath after their trial. It may not be much of a life but it was life and a life neither were entiltled to in my eyes.
I’m not looking for a solution because there isnt one these people dont think “i’d better not do this because”, no punishment will stop them but the public would know that they would NEVER be released how could they be they’re rotting in hellim with pete on this my cousins son was murdered aged 2 in 87 and i,d willingly kill the bast rd evn if it ment i lost my own liberty ( the mothers new bf did it )RIP carl
I like Pete’s direct approach to ‘paedophiles’ …. BANG !! – game over!!!
The only snag is – what if the person isn’t a paedophile???
If, for example, you were a Sun reader, then you’d have topped your local Paediatrician.
@tictax wrote:
im with pete on this my cousins son was murdered aged 2 in 87 and i,d willingly kill the bast rd evn if it ment i lost my own liberty ( the mothers new bf did it )RIP carl
I have to say I am with you tactax, If anyone had touched either of my 2 girls, as soft as I am I would have had justice for either of them, even as you say I lost my own liberty that would not matter……..
Day after day, we seem to hear another human being has been murdered by another , yes people who are supposed to be close to them, be they adults or children, of course children all our hearts go out to them, those of us that are parents, cannot comprehend how anyone could committ such attrocities to children, there are equally adults, mainly women who are murdered too at the hands of their partners, what I would just like to say, is that sod the people that committ these acts, please please for the most part remember the people that are left behind.
one of my freinds had her daughter murdered by her violent husband, she now not only lives with the fear that this man who is now free will come round and exact some sort of revenge on them, but, fears for their grandaughter who it was found had been abused later on in years and has never gotten over it will cope.
Its so heartbreaking that children are on a daily basis being subjected to the most horrific abuse and their perpertrators getting namby pamby sentences and so called rehabilitation Rubes said something earlier, yes rubes i hurt too for these children as do many other, so maybe that hurt should be channelled in too something positive?
we can change laws, we can move the powers that be if enough of us speak up, tell them, let them know, in the time it takes to post on these message boards our disgust and horror we could have lobbied our mp’s to presurise a change in the law for anyone who harms a child………….
@forumhostpb wrote:
I like Pete’s direct approach to ‘paedophiles’ …. BANG !! – game over!!!
The only snag is – what if the person isn’t a paedophile???
If, for example, you were a Sun reader, then you’d have topped your local Paediatrician.
PB? I think we are all guilty of the voice of ‘reason’ , we then have to think deeply, and honestly and closer to home, you have a small daughter PB , I have 2 daughters, what would WE do if it was one of our own?
Very fair point cath. I do find myself torn between a wholly natural instinct as a parent to wreak revenge on a person that threatens my child on the one hand and my equally strong dislike of ‘mob rule’ or if you prefer ‘vigilante justice’.
I genuinely mourn the banning of capital punishment and substitution of ‘life sentences’ – which only amount to a few years inmprisonment. If life imprisonment meant imprisonment for life, literally, then maybe that would go some way towards redressing the balance between innocent victim and murderer.
However, the current system is what we have all allowed to happen and has been driven by the well meaning, intellectual, liberal minded, ‘chatterati’.
Such, as they say, it life.
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