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23 November, 2006 at 7:41 pm #250386
@emmalush wrote:
Why dont the police (or insurance busters) just gain access to those vehicles which dont have insurance, and track them down? If the vehicle isnt at home, then you’d need a bloody good reason why it isnt.
They do “gain access to those vehicles which don’t have insurance” by stopping them at the side of the road. That’s when the driver gives a false identity, or has no proof of ID. :roll:
23 November, 2006 at 7:46 pm #250387I agree! We need a photo licence to drive, a passport to go abroad, all to prove our identity, so why not I.D cards for everyday use? Unless i plan to commit a crime in the foreseeable future then i’d be in a position to change my mind!
23 November, 2006 at 8:05 pm #250388@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
They do “gain access to those vehicles which don’t have insurance” by stopping them at the side of the road. That’s when the driver gives a false identity, or has no proof of ID. :roll:
I meant via DVLA. That way, they dont need to stop at random, those who dont need stopping, which is police time which is costing the tax payer, crime that is getting unsolved, crime that is occuring because theres less bobbies on the beat etc.
New labour will let crime get out of control, so they can tell us were “bad”, thus create ways of controlling us, and you fall for it hook line and sinker, reguly….
23 November, 2006 at 8:08 pm #250389@woohoo wrote:
I agree! We need a photo licence to drive, a passport to go abroad, all to prove our identity, so why not I.D cards for everyday use? Unless i plan to commit a crime in the foreseeable future then i’d be in a position to change my mind!
We dont need either a photo licence or a passport, and if we have nothing to hide, we dont need an i.d card.
23 November, 2006 at 8:15 pm #250390@emmalush wrote:
@woohoo wrote:
I agree! We need a photo licence to drive, a passport to go abroad, all to prove our identity, so why not I.D cards for everyday use? Unless i plan to commit a crime in the foreseeable future then i’d be in a position to change my mind!
We dont need either a photo licence or a passport, and if we have nothing to hide, we dont need an i.d card.
But, if i’m going on holiday then i need a passport! To drive, i need a photo licence!
23 November, 2006 at 8:35 pm #250391Emma dearie, loads of cars on the DVLA database have been ”sold” on to another person and the change of user hasn’t been notified. Also a legally registered car doesn’t necessarily HAVE to be at or even outside the address at which it is registered.
You can quite legally park your legally registered (but not necessarily insured) car anywhere (subject to the parking regulations in force where you actually park).
The offence is committed by actually DRIVING the vehicle without ….. etc etc. To prosecute this you have to apprehend the DRIVER actually in the act of DRIVING.
It isn’t ‘evidence’ to go round loking for uninsured vehicles at their registered keeper’s address, not finding them there, and then assuming that it is the ‘owner/keeper’ that is or was driving it at the time simply because it wasn’t where you expected to find it.
23 November, 2006 at 8:46 pm #250392@woohoo wrote:
But, if i’m going on holiday then i need a passport! To drive, i need a photo licence!
If…and if your not going abroad, or driving a car, you dont.
23 November, 2006 at 8:46 pm #250393@emmalush wrote:
@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
They do “gain access to those vehicles which don’t have insurance” by stopping them at the side of the road. That’s when the driver gives a false identity, or has no proof of ID. :roll:
I meant via DVLA. That way, they dont need to stop at random, those who dont need stopping, which is police time which is costing the tax payer, crime that is getting unsolved, crime that is occuring because theres less bobbies on the beat etc.
New labour will let crime get out of control, so they can tell us were “bad”, thus create ways of controlling us, and you fall for it hook line and sinker, reguly….
They don’t need to stop at random. They have a camera that reads the number plate, which then tells them if the car is stolen, wanted in connection with a crime, insured, taxed and MOT’d.
That’s when the driver tries to give a false ID, or cannot prove he is who he says he is.23 November, 2006 at 8:51 pm #250394@forumhostpb wrote:
Emma dearie, loads of cars on the DVLA database have been ”sold” on to another person and the change of user hasn’t been notified.
You warn folk that if caught, you’ll spend a minimum of 5 years in a cell with bread and water or better but at the cost of the criminal.
Its just far too easy for people to get away with things, and whats the punishment ££££££££ which is what the government deperately need, because their useless at spending, and they can blag us by saying “weve spent more money on such n such, more than any government has ever spent…”, what they dont tell us is, that they dont spend it well.It isn’t ‘evidence’ to go round loking for uninsured vehicles at their registered keeper’s address, not finding them there, and then assuming that it is the ‘owner/keeper’ that is or was driving it at the time simply because it wasn’t where you expected to find it.[/b]
I never said someone should…i said if a vehicle isnt at home, then the owner needs a bloody good reason why.
23 November, 2006 at 8:57 pm #250395@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
They don’t need to stop at random. They have a camera that reads the number plate, which then tells them if the car is stolen, wanted in connection with a crime, insured, taxed and MOT’d.
That’s when the driver tries to give a false ID, or cannot prove he is who he says he is.The if he cant provide evidence, he either leaves his car and gets it, or the police follow him home…
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