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We all know there are people who claim benefits or the dole…………
We all saw the news and read the stores about people claiming long term benefits such has incapacity benefit and mothers who have children over 7 years old being asking to find jobs.
Buts its complete rubbish when you look at it.
Under the benefits rules and laws, if you are getting a benefit and the government replaces it with a new one, they can’t make you meet the requirements of the new rules.
Simple put, if you are claiming incapacity benefit and you meet the rules, they can’t just call it something else, drop the cash and force you to follow the new crap.
Once its been set-up and there are no changes to your personal circumstances, it just rolls on for years on end.
So its not going to affect anyone who is currently claiming these hand outs, only new people trying to get them.
I think the new rules will only about 10,000 in the next 5 years and not the millions they are telling us.
Is that the government laws and rules that the government decree by any chance ?
I think the case you should be looking at is the “war widows pension”.
Back in the 70’s the government try to standerize widows pension, it was to paid at a lower rate for everyone, including “war widows”.
The action failed and the Law lords ruling now apply to anyone claiming “state benefit without a changed of personal circumstances.”
The government can try and make any law it likes, but if the Law lords, don’t it don’t happen.
I wanna be a Law Lord
@dead_on_arrvial wrote:
I think the case you should be looking at is the “war widows pension”.
Back in the 70’s the government try to standerize widows pension, it was to paid at a lower rate for everyone, including “war widows”.
The action failed and the Law lords ruling now apply to anyone claiming “state benefit without a changed of personal circumstances.”
The government can try and make any law it likes, but if the Law lords, don’t it don’t happen.
as a widow i would have loved to reply to that ! but didnt understand the question !
widows pension and benefits is a weird one. i dont get a penny as it was deemed he died too young,, if id known id have made him wait another year,, ungrateful sod ! and this was Thatcherism at its finest. ! so all the taxes etc he paid, go into the system.
Let me try and answer this in simple terms.
There are 2 kinds of “widow”
First widow is someone who hubby/wifely has die due to accident or illness.
Second widow is someone who has lost a hubby/wifely who was serving in the Arm forces or thru a act of war such has air bombing, but not a act of terrorism.
The pensions are paid at different levels, the Widows war pension has always been paid at a higher rate.
The original “war widows pension” goes back to a time when women didn’t work full time. Whether you was 19 or 99 the rate was the same and paid for life.
The “widows pension” was more modern in its out look and reflects today’s views on working women and is paid at a lower rate. They feel at some point you will return to the work force.
I hope that clears it up for you.
thanks doa ,but NOT really.. im one of the first kind of widows,, as in my Husband died while NOT in armed service.or forces?
I know it may feel unfair to have 2 systems, (well after looking this up 3).
But you need to understand why, war widows pension are for people who are
injured or disabled through serving in Her Majesty’s (HM) Armed Forces, including The Ulster Defence Regiment, now known as the Royal Irish Regiment, the Home Guard and nursing and auxiliary services;
a civil defence volunteer (CDV) disabled through serving as a CDV;
a civilian disabled as a result of enemy action in the 1939 to 1945 war;
a merchant seaman, a member of the naval auxiliary services or a coastguard, and you were disabled because of an injury you received or a disease suffered because of conditions during a war or because you were a prisoner-of war;
or a member of the Polish Forces under British Command who served in the 1939-1945 war, or in the Polish Resettlement Forces and you were injured or disabled through this service.
Basicly they deal acts of war and are a left over from the birth of the welfare state.
I think if you lose someone now, its hard to deal with the system.
But unfortunately we are all still paying the price for this scheme and has the bill went up over the last 50 years, ways where found to reduce the amount paid to “new widows” who weren’t cover by this program.
Like I did say at the start of this post, once you are on a benefit, its impossible for the government to make changes to it or replace it.
yeah i hear what you are saying DOA. was just a shocker.. as in grief one worries, and one feels that life MAY be ok (ish) ,with a combination of Government help.
last thing ya think of is money. but lets face it i was left with 2 kids. My man paid ALL his life into Tax..as did MY father and HIS father before him. a woman has to be 45 when her husband dies,, to get state “widows” . and because my man was only 38,,they seen him as a young man and i would marry again !
on arriving on my 45th birthday,,i assumed widows benefits would be mine..
NO !
surely the case would be that younger widows are as entitled to older ones.
it annoys me as i get his works pension, but thats deducted from any disability benefits paid to me.. yet he literally ruined his knees as a motor Mechanic/engineer , so the pension is a pittance.
not to worry,,in this cruel world i shall survive,as im a strong beatch. ( I think)
it annoyed me at the years of wasted tax revenue !
WHIP the benefit thieves into work, while their at it, make prisoners work soeing socks or something for no money so our English children don’t walk about with their toes sticking out their shoes.
Foreign benefit claiments should be sent back to the country they came from, as should foreign prisoners.
By foreign i mean any white person not born in England.
Vote for me, i’ll whip our country back into shape, aarrghh
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