Nelson Mandela Tribute

@forumhostpb wrote:

I slightly agree with Emma here ….. pause whilst everybody falls on the floor in shock.

After all Mandela was a leading light in the South African Communist Party; he did actively lead armed insurrections in which civilians were callously murdered; he fully advocated and supported armed insurrection – a line that he was taught no doubt by his Russian paymasters in Moscow.

Now of course he has his own statue in London and is hailed as an international peacemaker.

I wonder what the families of those that were murdered think of this. Still what’s a few deaths in the cause of freedom eh?

I dont believe it is anywhere stated Mandela personally killed anyone (he didnt) and if we, as a nation, can appoint Martin Mcguinness as the Deputy First Minister in NI (a man who was second in command in the Derry IRA) and sanction it, I’m sure we can see Mandela in the same light…or PB, do we never ever talk to terrorists and simply perpetuate a spiral of violence? Emotive statements are very eloquent but also play to the lowest common denominator- I wonder how loyalist families in NI and families of those in the old RUC or British Army who had loved ones killed feel about Mcguinness as deputy first minister. BUT if Ian Paisley can manage to live with it, then I’m sure we all can!

As for the statue, the fact he advocated violence over peaceful protest and the fact his (and the ANC’s) policies in the early 90’s are largely responsible for the mess the South Africa is today should remove any need for a statue in London- Biko would have been a much much more worthy cause for a statue.

IMO

@anita Gofradump wrote:

What a great day our goverment remembering such a fine man and a leader by having a statue of him put next to such greats as Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill etc in london so future generations can remember this man and not only what he sufferd, but what he achieved.

As i watch him speak a ready prepared speach live on tv, i cannot think what a insult it is to this guy to stand there and read this cr@p prepared for him, first thing he says is what a great leader gordon brown is, only thing is the expression on his face didnt look like he agreed with that as he is reading it.

Not only that when they got him to speak, the whipped him up out his chair, which he didnt look to pleased about lol.

Almost 90yrs old,what an inspiration for everyone, i do get the feeling they wanted to do this tribute before he croaked it though lol.

while i admire your belief in the good work this man has without a doubt, achieved we have to remember he was at the end of the day a terrorist just like gerry adams and co. although we dont get told this very often. would we all feel the same if the government built a statue of gerry adams ? i think not.