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@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Oh I certainly agree with you there punda, and believe me I can be as instinctively cynical as most, although I do try to fight the urge.
The only difficulty I have with your point is the theory that more would be made of this in the media if it were anyone else. As you can see I believe the polar opposite to be true in this instance. Even without the conspiracy theories I simply can’t see it.
And why? Well, simply because it happens almost every day. I myself have seen similar instances. Never have I seen a rush of hacks though.. Unless in the event of extreme and/or tragic consequences.
But I’m ok with agreeing to disagree on that.I see what you’re saying but I think the Tory machine went into action to make sure this wasn’t a big issue.
Anyone else? Well we have sad ppl in England who like their 15 mins of fame and like to make sure the local rags get to know about things and then of course you’ve got the local hacks wanting to get a splash in the nationals….
And if it’s a quiet news day then Joe or Joanna Bloggs find themselves catapulted into the media spotlight.
Perhaps those pointing the finger haven’t experienced that awful feeling when you think you’ve lost one of your children. It can happen to anyone, we’re only human, even politicians.
And if the great british media are ‘going easy’ on someone than that would certainly be a first!
Perhaps the press standards inquiry has got something to do with it?!?My previous comment might have been substantial enough for Pepper to rest his case on but it was a jest about my own political bias.
But seriously. they travel in different cars for good reason. Dave has national security stuff to take care of, so the daughter would have to be with in another vehicle and the responsibility lies with her mother on a personal level.
It would be bad enough if she had disappeared like Maddie, or been molested or worse.
If she was kidnapped and held to ransom, what peril could the country have been put in? In fact, with the late reporting, we don’t know that didn’t happen.This is a serious national security error and their security staff are responsible in the second place.
It’s one thing when a child wanders off while her parents are distracted and something else when the parents and entourage actually drive off and leave the place without her.
It was a mistake, it was a human mistake, but I’d like to register my dissent from the spirit of tolerance. It’s no more excusable because it happens every day than dangerous or drunken driving.They are not just any family. His job is not just any job. This was not just any disappearance.
well, I put it in as my little barb at the problem families policy of the govt, tbh – that’s why I said the Camerons were a problem family.
The hypocrisy of the politicians who were so close to Rebekah Brooks and the Murdoch slander-merchants until recently! The Murdoch machine would have used everyday slipups about children to destroy any ordinary person or any public figure it disliked.
I would complain about the national security leak which led to David Cameron not getting lost.
@sceptical guy wrote:
. . . . . . I would complain about the national security leak which led to David Cameron not getting lost.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
They are not just any family. His job is not just any job. This was not just any disappearance.
(Said in a sexy voice, obviously not mine) This was an M&S disapearance.
@fat bob wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
They are not just any family. His job is not just any job. This was not just any disappearance.
(Said in a sexy voice, obviously not mine) This was an M&S disapearance.
:lol: Good one man!
Well, I don’t see anyone here excusing what happened. Perhaps some may feel that way? I don’t know.
I know I certainly don’t.
As for tolerance? A peculiar one that.
I can only speak for myself in saying that at no time whatsoever have I excused what happened with the Camerons. I have however mentioned Perspective, noting that, alas, such episodes happen every day. This is merely an observation and not an advocation of such instances of neglect. No, it means “they happen every day”, an unfortunate fact that in NO WAY implies “they happen every day and that’s ok”, so I have no idea what tree is being barked up with regard to “tolerance”.It’s also abundantly clear that my “every day” reference was in relation to media coverage and myself and punda’s differing view on that part of proceedings.
So, an odd one indeed.. No such lapses in parental judgement should ever be “tolerated” upon the threadbare premise of their rate of frequency. Such a facile defence was never put forth. Therefore comparing what has been said to the conscious decision to endanger lives behind a wheel is to me a rather pompous assertion that does a great injustice to some of the more honest and open admissions posted on this thread.
On the issue of national security and the Camerons not being just any other couple, I couldn’t agree with Words more. For yes, this is where the Perspective I alluded to takes on new proportions – from intimate, family trauma to the wellbeing of a nation. This was a strand I was going to address later in proceedings (after the personal reflections), but Words has done a masterly job in that regard (see? we can agree on some things lol).
Mister Cameron is both Father and Prime Minister. So yes, it was gross incompetence and highly dangerous when looked at in the broader sense of things. No argument there whatsoever.
This was a disaster waiting to happen in so many ways.. but one that didn’t .. And Thank God for that.
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@sceptical guy wrote:
. . . . . . I would complain about the national security leak which led to David Cameron not getting lost.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hehehehe!
At least he didn’t leave his child in a bath whilst nipping down to the pub or wherever!!! – in today’s DM :(
I agree with Panda, money wins out.
The same aurgement was brought up when Maddie McCann went missing
if her parents weren’t doctors but from a Council estate would they have being charged with neglet – -Yes i think they would have.If Cameron wasn’t PM would he have at least being interviewed by Social Sercives – Yes i think he would have.
Like Sgt. said “this was a disaster waiting to happen in so many ways”, their lucky shes safe and sound.
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