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Dodging the question them, lol.
I didn’t dodge the question at all. You are an immigrant who has not fully integrated into UK society and have said so. Yet here you are accusing Muslims of a lack of integration. You claim to be a liberal, yet apparently you want to dictate what women can choose to wear, or not. Practice what you preach.
I didn’t dodge the question at all.
You never answered it, so that is dodging it to me.
You are an immigrant who has not fully integrated into UK society and have said so.
Are you going to deport me then? Lol.
I don’t think I have ever claimed not to be integrated, I think of myself as being either English or British as my primary identity. And I am a naturalised citizen, so I don’t know if calling me an immigrant is accurate or not, i’m legally as British as anyone who was born here.
You claim to be a liberal, yet apparently you want to dictate what women can choose to wear, or not. Practice what you preach.
Again, I never dictated what people are allowed to wear. But banning people from walking into a bank wearing a balaclava (example) wouldn’t be a violation of liberal values so your point is kind of invalid anyway.
Kenty……these people are from different cultures. The men treat women differently where they come from. A classic example of this stone age view of women is the mass sexual assaults of women in Cologne, nye 2015. Of course the women were blamed for their dress and because they were wearing perfume! Really? if anyone from any other part of the world wants to come either here, or to any other country, learn to integrate, and respect the laws and culture of that country. Do,you think that their actions in Germany, France, Austria, Sweden and Norway reflects even a tiny bit of any of that? If you or I wanted to go and live in another country, we would be rightly expeected to abide by the laws and culture of that country. These men arent. Doesnt their disgraceful behaviour bother you? Doesnt anything in that article that she said bother you?
We are going round and round in circles….of course behaviour like that bothers me…..that’s never the reason I replied to you….I replied because of your third world comment…which I have pointed out time and time and again…
I get your passionate about this subject….just because some of us are not as vocal doesn’t mean we don’t have opinions on the subject or indeed we think these people are doing nothing wrong…..why don’t u put yourself to good use and go to your MP…go to parliament…try change things for this country before it all gets out of control….rally round the troops….join UKIP….and I’m not joking here
just stop turning my responses round to make it look like I sympathise with these people by throwing it back at me wether it bothers me or not
Are you going to deport me then? Lol.
Why not, you want to deport Muslims who don’t meet your exacting standards and have have said so openly on this thread. Secondly, an immigrant who home schools their children because they don’t “trust” the British education system, clearly rejects our British values and is clearly not an integrated member of our society.
Why not, you want to deport Muslims who don’t meet your exacting standards and have have said so openly on this thread. Secondly, an immigrant who home schools their children because they don’t “trust” the British education system, clearly rejects our British values and is clearly not an integrated member of our society.
BB also seems to think you can deport British citizens, you’re on the same side as him on this issue.
Regarding education, I was educated in the UK myself from the age of 7. And I want my daughter to enter public education at year 7, my girlfriend wants her to be entirely home schooled. So I don’t know exactly what will happen yet.
You clearly do not respect UK law either, which is why you want to dictate what women can wear. The law is quite clear on this issue. If anyone isn’t integrated into UK society, it isn’t the Muslims you complain about, it is you, an immigrant yourself.
Kenty……these people are from different cultures. The men treat women differently where they come from. A classic example of this stone age view of women is the mass sexual assaults of women in Cologne, nye 2015. Of course the women were blamed for their dress and because they were wearing perfume! Really? if anyone from any other part of the world wants to come either here, or to any other country, learn to integrate, and respect the laws and culture of that country. Do,you think that their actions in Germany, France, Austria, Sweden and Norway reflects even a tiny bit of any of that? If you or I wanted to go and live in another country, we would be rightly expeected to abide by the laws and culture of that country. These men arent. Doesnt their disgraceful behaviour bother you? Doesnt anything in that article that she said bother you?
We are going round and round in circles….of course behaviour like that bothers me…..that’s never the reason I replied to you….I replied because of your third world comment…which I have pointed out time and time and again… I get your passionate about this subject….just because some of us are not as vocal doesn’t mean we don’t have opinions on the subject or indeed we think these people are doing nothing wrong…..why don’t u put yourself to good use and go to your MP…go to parliament…try change things for this country before it all gets out of control….rally round the troops….join UKIP….and I’m not joking here just stop turning my responses round to make it look like I sympathise with these people by throwing it back at me wether it bothers me or not
Yes we are indeed going in circles. Trust me, I DO try and chang things. That is one reason I voted out.
my MAIN gripe, and always will be, is the fact that these people dont seem to have any intention of either intergrating, or showing the slightest bit of respect to their host country and the people living there. Nor do they appear to be grateful. The German people in particular are sick of of it all. They want Merkel out, and want their country back. Who can blame them?
Not sure what more I can say really….I have made my point as best I can. Whether or not its good enough, who knows. When I feel very strongly about something, I do tend to be very vocal about it, thats just the way I am. Maybe I dont word it very well, who knows.
So….I shall leave this ‘discussion’ now. Knock yourselves out.
Oh and you parrot precisely what BB has to say, but at least he/she doesn’t hide his/her views behind a torrent of whataboutery.
o….I shall leave this ‘discussion’ now. Knock yourselves out.
You always do leave the conversation Batty, but only after you have provoked the response you hoped for and why you created this thread. Same here as on Patschat, your only saving grace on this site is that you have to moderate the language you choose, whereas on Pats you don’t and are soon shot down in flames, with equally strong language.
You clearly do not respect UK law either, which is why you want to dictate what women can wear. The law is quite clear on this issue. If anyone isn’t integrated into UK society, it isn’t the Muslims you complain about, it is you, an immigrant yourself.
I don’t understand why you keep saying I want to dictate what people wear, I don’t
But it seems you think you should unquestioningly follow every law without ever criticising them, that seems wonderfully totilatarian.
And yes, there are laws that I don’t respect. Drug laws would be one of them, I use weed. Not really sure what that has to do with integration of muslims though.
he/she doesn’t hide his/her views behind a torrent of whataboutery.
I’ve never heard the Socratic method described that way.
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