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9 January, 2017 at 6:37 pm #1019278
The victims were not robbed, the police have yet to identify any suspects
Nice evidence
Far more accurate than your claim though isn’t it, where you dubiously claim to have been randomly attacked for being gay just because the attackers were according to you, Muslim (how you know that only you know, perhaps they had brown skin).
9 January, 2017 at 6:40 pm #1019279I do wonder how long a similar thread on homosexuality or race, would last on this site before the owner quite rightly shut it down. It appears Islamophobia, so rampant in our society today, has become the ‘norm’ and therefore acceptable.
Why do you think that Islam is comparable to sexuality to race? It should be compared to any other ideology, lets say communism for example. Should the conversation be shut down if I mentioned that millions of people were intentionally starved to death by communist govenrments so we should be careful of what parts of communism we allow people to practice?
There are people, I am not one of them, who claim homosexuality is a ‘lifestyle’ choice, particularly Christian fundamentalists in America.
9 January, 2017 at 6:42 pm #1019280Far more accurate than your claim though isn’t it, where you dubiously claim to have been randomly attacked for being gay just because the attackers were according to you, Muslim (how you know that only you know, perhaps they had brown skin).
‘Non-identified suspects’ isn’t proof that they were christian, or that it was motivated by their religion.
I don’t speak very much Arabic, but they definiately said thinks related to Islam that I recognised. But I don’t really want to talk about this, it was just an example that the police won’t always investigate religiously motivated crimes.
9 January, 2017 at 6:43 pm #1019281Because that would make us ethnocentric, which makes us no better than them.
How does criticising the practice of executing gay people make us as bad as people who execute gay people? That is litterally what you are saying.
Of course we can criticise, and point out we dont do that in the UK. By being ethnocentric, we are saying our morals and values are better than yours. Which isnt the case. No one culture is any better or superior, just different. I dont appreciate outsiders coming to our culture being ethnocentric telling us we shouldnt drink, be gay or what ever it is we do they dont approve of. So, Im not going to judge other cultures for what they do, which in their minds is perfectly normal and correct to do.
This an offshoot of multiculturalism.
9 January, 2017 at 6:45 pm #1019282There are people, I am not one of them, who claim homosexuality is a ‘lifestyle’ choice, particularly Christian fundamentalists in America.
I’m not sure that really answers my question, but I don’t actually believe people a born gay myself. Its possible that you might be born with hormonal imballences that make you more likely to be attracted to the oposite sex but there isn’t any research that confirms that as far as i’m aware of. There is still a lot of environmental influence I think.
That isn’t the same as it being a choice, though.
9 January, 2017 at 6:48 pm #1019283Far more accurate than your claim though isn’t it, where you dubiously claim to have been randomly attacked for being gay just because the attackers were according to you, Muslim (how you know that only you know, perhaps they had brown skin).
‘Non-identified suspects’ isn’t proof that they were christian, or that it was motivated by their religion. I don’t speak very much Arabic, but they definiately said thinks related to Islam that I recognised. But I don’t really want to talk about this, it was just an example that the police won’t always investigate religiously motivated crimes.
You contradict yourself again, I do hate to press the point, you automatically dismissed my link out of hand and directly quoted the police stating “there was no evidence” but now you are claiming the police “won’t always investigate”. Which is it?
9 January, 2017 at 6:48 pm #1019284Its not for me to tell the Saudis to not chop thieves’ hands off, and its not for the Saudis to tell me who I can and cant shag. Neiher of us are right or wrong, just different.
9 January, 2017 at 6:49 pm #1019285Which isnt the case. No one culture is any better or superior, just different. I dont appreciate outsiders coming to our culture being ethnocentric telling us we shouldnt drink, be gay or what ever it is we do they dont approve of. So, Im not going to judge other cultures for what they do, which in their minds is perfectly normal and correct to do. This an offshoot of multiculturalism.
Ah, you believe in cultural relativeism. That makes more sense to me now, I don’t believe in that myself. I am 100% confindent in saying that British culture is superior to Saudi culture in pretty much any way you could think of. Somebody thinking it is normal to kill gay people doesn’t mean that they are right. This is a very dangerous ideology you have.
9 January, 2017 at 6:51 pm #1019286You contradict yourself again, I do hate to press the point, you automatically dismissed my link out of hand and directly quoted the police stating “there was no evidence” but now you are claiming the police “won’t always investigate”. Which is it?
The police not investigating was a reply to what Tapioca said earlier. I don’t see how it is related to what you said at all.
Its not for me to tell the Saudis to not chop thieves’ hands off, and its not for the Saudis to tell me who I can and cant shag. Neiher of us are right or wrong, just different.
No, they are wrong.
Making excuses for them is also wrong.
9 January, 2017 at 6:58 pm #1019288Somebody thinking it is normal to kill gay people doesn’t mean that they are right.
It does in Saudi Arabia, and other countries. Thats the way they do things.
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