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You don’t want Muslims to integrate more and have said so in plain English and so you are again being disingenuous and other than forcing your own ideology on Muslims, have offered no sensible and realistic solutions.
I think any solutions lie in Secularism.
What the finer details of the solution is, and how it will be implememted, I dont know, and is for the politicians, scientists and theologians, with the help of the public. I and we can theorise and specualte till eternity.
Nonetheless, the solution is in secularism.
You don’t want Muslims to integrate more and have said so in plain English
I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion from what I said, but if I said it in plain English then i’m sure you can quote it for me.
so you are again being disingenuous and other than forcing your own ideology on Muslims, have offered no sensible and realistic solutions.
The only thing I could be described as forcing is making Sharia illegal. I don’t really think I should be stoned to death because i’m gay, sorry if you disagree with that. I don’t think you have actually read anything that I have said.
Nonetheless, the solution is in secularism.
I don’t think anyone here is really argueing otherwise, maybe BB.
The problem we are discussing here is the radical parts of the Islamic community that will violently reject anything other than Islamic rule.
Correct me if I’m wrong here, isn’t it illegal to practice religion in Saudi Arabia other than Islam? possibly other countries have outlawed religion ? or certain religions ?
Point being, I would be deterred from practicing any religion in Saudi Arabia other than Islam. We cannot judge them to our western values, morals and standards but it seems to work fine for them. We just go one step further and outlaw them all
I don’t agree American drone bombers should mutilate and murder innocent Muslim women and children in North West Pakistan, what makes you assume your moral outrage carries any more weight than anyone else. I suspect you don’t realize, or even understand that homosexuals are also barbarically murdered in America and other non Muslim societies by Christians.
We cannot judge them to our western values, morals and standards
Why?
Nonetheless, the solution is in secularism.
I don’t think anyone here is really argueing otherwise, maybe BB. The problem we are discussing here is the radical parts of the Islamic community that will violently reject anything other than Islamic rule.
That is just not true, as anyone reading this thread in its entirety will testify. You have clearly stated on this thread that Muslim and Western religious philosophy is incompatible and that Muslims should adapt to a Western philosophy. Or are not welcome.
radical parts of the Islamic community that will violently reject anything other than Islamic rule.
What in UK ? lol. You must be mad. We will just send the Army in if the EDL dont beat them to it. That applies to all who will violently offer dissent, be it football hooligans of radical jews.
I suspect you don’t realize, or even understand that homosexuals are also barbarically murdered in America
That is quite a claim, please provide some evidence.
and other non Muslim societies by Christians.
Certainly in other countries this is a problem, and it is wrong that they do that. But I am not in that country, and I have no power to change the society there. I can chance society here, I can have these discussions, and I can vote.
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