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Oh fgs … look the word up in the dictionary eh.
From Oxford Dictionary:
“Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.“
Wrong choice, muslims (or any other religious group) should not be given special treatment.
Thank god you don’t run the world Drac !
Thank god you dont if you support people operating highly dangerous cranes close to passing out due to not being able to take on adequate nutrition.
I was referring the general intolerance & negativity Drac appears to have. It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question. Employers are legally obliged to take multi faith celebration into consideration so perhaps therefore he should of taken holiday over Ramadan & if that wasn’t possible moved to a job that was less dangerous. Many of my Muslim clinical colleagues work the night shift over Ramadan. We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
I wondered how long it would be before the old racism drum was banged again for stating no muslim should be working operating machinery that could kill people due to their beliefs of not drinking water / imbibing food. It’s normally an argument perpetuated by the braindead but carry on
Sticks & stones …. no perhaps I can see a situation from both angles. I am far from braindead too thank you very much. Pardon me for having a view ….. I will leave you to hurl your insults.
It’s no good playing victim , this type of behaviour accusing people of racism where it doesn’t exist is tiresome in society in general. You said yourself health and safety comes first , yet when someone says no muslim should be operating machinery that can kill affected by ramadam due to lack of food/water they are ” racist”. Make your mind up- which is it?
I view it totally differently. If there is any evidence that Muslims observing Ramadan are making poor decisions specifically due to dehydration, then why are employers not moving them to a separate, less risky role, until after. Why would they be sacked, the employer must have been aware they observe Ramadan. Employers are responsible for overall health and safety and employees are responsible for adhering to any such training.
Well of course you view it totally differently as your brain works in a similar way to arce defending all “minorities regardless of whether they are in the right or not . The bottom line is , he works as a crane operator and if he can’t do what he is employed to do for religious beliefs he shouldn’t be doing the job in the first place. Why should employers have to move him to a less risky role if he is selfish enough to continue operating cranes putting lives at risk because of his pagan rituals?
Rudeboy logic again. Apparently the Muslim world in far hotter and humid climates than the UK, completely shuts down during Ramadan and no one is employed in high risk jobs at all. Like pilots and firemen/police/nurses/doctors etc etc etc. In Rudeboys world it is just an excuse, any old excuse, to get very angry at individual Muslims and Islam, again.
I’m afraid it’s you that needs to look the word up in a dictionary and requires a basic education if you think Islam is a race.
If it’s racial, then i’m also a muslim. I’m 1/8th Moroccan.
Does that mean that I get to endanger people’s lives with no consequences too?
It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question.
If the worker in question was not a muslim, and still behaved in the same way then they probably would have been reported. How can you describe this in any way except for special treatment?
We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
Nobody mentioned race, why are you so quick to bring it up?
Read the rest of my post & stop dragging the points out that you can twist. I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Singling out a group isn’t racism at all and you are clearly too ignorant to actually understand what racism means… Islam is not a race and no muslim should be in a job where he can kill people due to his beliefs. You carry on banging the race drum , just don’t come back here typing RIP if anyone gets killed due to this unprofessional set up of people in jobs they shouldn’t be in… maybe you can visit the families of anyone lost telling them they were racist for being upset over any potential tragedy.
Oh so by that theory
“no muslim should be in a job where he can kill people due to his beliefs”.
Get it right NOBODY should be doing it yet you chose to focus on the fact he was Muslim !!!
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Get it right NOBODY should be doing it yet you chose to focus on the fact he was Muslim !!!
He did it because he’s a muslim though. It’s also the reason he got away without being punished.
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I view it totally differently. If there is any evidence that Muslims observing Ramadan are making poor decisions specifically due to dehydration, then why are employers not moving them to a separate, less risky role, until after. Why would they be sacked, the employer must have been aware they observe Ramadan. Employers are responsible for overall health and safety and employees are responsible for adhering to any such training.
Well of course you view it totally differently as your brain works in a similar way to arce defending all “minorities regardless of whether they are in the right or not . The bottom line is , he works as a crane operator and if he can’t do what he is employed to do for religious beliefs he shouldn’t be doing the job in the first place. Why should employers have to move him to a less risky role if he is selfish enough to continue operating cranes putting lives at risk because of his pagan rituals?
Rudeboy logic again. Apparently the Muslim world in far hotter and humid climates than the UK, completely shuts down during Ramadan and no one is employed in high risk jobs at all. Like pilots and firemen/police/nurses/doctors etc etc etc. In Rudeboys world it is just an excuse, any old excuse, to get very angry at individual Muslims and Islam, again.
so building companies should be forced to shut down during Ramadan should they in a non muslim country incase Mr muslim kills someone? Behave and talk sense.. you either adapt to a countries customs or leave. How many people from the uk would be able to move to a muslim country and not work over xmas as they were celebrating the birth of Jesus ?
It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question.
If the worker in question was not a muslim, and still behaved in the same way then they probably would have been reported. How can you describe this in any way except for special treatment?
We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
Nobody mentioned race, why are you so quick to bring it up?
Read the rest of my post & stop dragging the points out that you can twist. I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Singling out a group isn’t racism at all and you are clearly too ignorant to actually understand what racism means… Islam is not a race and no muslim should be in a job where he can kill people due to his beliefs. You carry on banging the race drum , just don’t come back here typing RIP if anyone gets killed due to this unprofessional set up of people in jobs they shouldn’t be in… maybe you can visit the families of anyone lost telling them they were racist for being upset over any potential tragedy.
Oh so by that theory “no muslim should be in a job where he can kill people due to his beliefs”. Get it right NOBODY should be doing it yet you chose to focus on the fact he was Muslim !!!
It’s hard to argue with someone so dim, but as alluded to by others I’ll try to educate you. I focused on the fact he was Muslim because that was the reason he was putting lives at risk lol. You do realise ramadan is a muslim fasting process which was the whole point of the OPs post?
Rudeboy logic again. Apparently the Muslim world in far hotter and humid climates than the UK, completely shuts down during Ramadan and no one is employed in high risk jobs at all. Like pilots and firemen/police/nurses/doctors etc etc etc. In Rudeboys world it is just an excuse, any old excuse, to get very angry at individual Muslims and Islam, again.
Then personal abuse to other posters who disagree with him.
Going off at a tangent a little but it’s thoroughly disillusioning to know there are people like Arce and Gee in society spreading their DNA to futures generations. In China they have a birth control programme where people are only allowed a certain number of kids but in order to keep population numbers down surely it’s time to advocate some kind of basic IQ test to enable people to reproduce legally.
” Men proposing to women is sexism” ” You chose to focus on him being muslim” on a thread discussing someone putting lives at danger due to ramadan lol. It gets me down knowing these people are going to continue their gene pool on creating more idiots ad infinitum . If any political party brought in enforced castration/sterilisation for the sub 90 IQ brigade I would not only vote for them but actively canvass door to door.
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