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9 July, 2017 at 7:12 pm #1059884
I view it totally differently. If there is any evidence that Muslims observing Ramadan are making poor decisions specifically due to dehydration, then why are employers not moving them to a separate, less risky role, until after. Why would they be sacked, the employer must have been aware they observe Ramadan. Employers are responsible for overall health and safety and employees are responsible for adhering to any such training.
9 July, 2017 at 7:15 pm #1059887It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question.
If the worker in question was not a muslim, and still behaved in the same way then they probably would have been reported. How can you describe this in any way except for special treatment?
We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
Nobody mentioned race, why are you so quick to bring it up?
9 July, 2017 at 7:25 pm #1059892Wrong choice, muslims (or any other religious group) should not be given special treatment.
Thank god you don’t run the world Drac !
Thank god you dont if you support people operating highly dangerous cranes close to passing out due to not being able to take on adequate nutrition.
I was referring the general intolerance & negativity Drac appears to have. It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question. Employers are legally obliged to take multi faith celebration into consideration so perhaps therefore he should of taken holiday over Ramadan & if that wasn’t possible moved to a job that was less dangerous. Many of my Muslim clinical colleagues work the night shift over Ramadan. We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
I wondered how long it would be before the old racism drum was banged again for stating no muslim should be working operating machinery that could kill people due to their beliefs of not drinking water / imbibing food. It’s normally an argument perpetuated by the braindead but carry on
9 July, 2017 at 7:26 pm #1059893It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question.
If the worker in question was not a muslim, and still behaved in the same way then they probably would have been reported. How can you describe this in any way except for special treatment?
We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
Nobody mentioned race, why are you so quick to bring it up?
Read the rest of my post & stop dragging the points out that you can twist.
I never mentioned race !
“I said singling any one group out is called racism”.
As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs.
The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
9 July, 2017 at 7:28 pm #1059894I view it totally differently. If there is any evidence that Muslims observing Ramadan are making poor decisions specifically due to dehydration, then why are employers not moving them to a separate, less risky role, until after. Why would they be sacked, the employer must have been aware they observe Ramadan. Employers are responsible for overall health and safety and employees are responsible for adhering to any such training.
Well of course you view it totally differently as your brain works in a similar way to arce defending all “minorities regardless of whether they are in the right or not . The bottom line is , he works as a crane operator and if he can’t do what he is employed to do for religious beliefs he shouldn’t be doing the job in the first place. Why should employers have to move him to a less risky role if he is selfish enough to continue operating cranes putting lives at risk because of his pagan rituals?
9 July, 2017 at 7:28 pm #1059895I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Racism requires race to be involved in the conversation.
Regardless, Islam is not a race.
9 July, 2017 at 7:29 pm #1059896Wrong choice, muslims (or any other religious group) should not be given special treatment.
Thank god you don’t run the world Drac !
Thank god you dont if you support people operating highly dangerous cranes close to passing out due to not being able to take on adequate nutrition.
I was referring the general intolerance & negativity Drac appears to have. It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question. Employers are legally obliged to take multi faith celebration into consideration so perhaps therefore he should of taken holiday over Ramadan & if that wasn’t possible moved to a job that was less dangerous. Many of my Muslim clinical colleagues work the night shift over Ramadan. We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
I wondered how long it would be before the old racism drum was banged again for stating no muslim should be working operating machinery that could kill people due to their beliefs of not drinking water / imbibing food. It’s normally an argument perpetuated by the braindead but carry on
Sticks & stones …. no perhaps I can see a situation from both angles.
I am far from braindead too thank you very much.
Pardon me for having a view ….. I will leave you to hurl your insults.
9 July, 2017 at 7:31 pm #1059897I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Racism requires race to be involved in the conversation. Regardless, Islam is not a race.
Oh fgs … look the word up in the dictionary eh.
9 July, 2017 at 7:31 pm #1059898It goes without saying that safety comes first & “special treatment” doesn’t come into question.
If the worker in question was not a muslim, and still behaved in the same way then they probably would have been reported. How can you describe this in any way except for special treatment?
We live in a multicultural society these day. Singling any one group out is called racism.
Nobody mentioned race, why are you so quick to bring it up?
Read the rest of my post & stop dragging the points out that you can twist. I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Singling out a group isn’t racism at all and you are clearly too ignorant to actually understand what racism means… Islam is not a race and no muslim should be in a job where he can kill people due to his beliefs. You carry on banging the race drum , just don’t come back here typing RIP if anyone gets killed due to this unprofessional set up of people in jobs they shouldn’t be in… maybe you can visit the families of anyone lost telling them they were racist for being upset over any potential tragedy.
9 July, 2017 at 7:32 pm #1059899I never mentioned race ! “I said singling any one group out is called racism”. As I said too perhaps his employers should of allowed him to take leave or moved him to a less dangerous jobs. The employer obviously knew he was Muslim.
Racism requires race to be involved in the conversation. Regardless, Islam is not a race.
Oh fgs … look the word up in the dictionary eh.
I’m afraid it’s you that needs to look the word up in a dictionary and requires a basic education if you think Islam is a race.
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