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10 July, 2017 at 4:24 pm #1060171
Don’t change the analogy now to suit your argument, in that Dr Drac, Ph.D style of yours. You were quite specific, if you are going to make sweeping statements about issues you are ignorant about, then expect others, whether it be online or in your real life, to challenge your primitive views.
I didn’t change the analogy, just explained it to you. And if I didn’t want people to challenge me, I wouldn’t be participating in this discussion.
10 July, 2017 at 4:28 pm #1060172Don’t change the analogy now to suit your argument, in that Dr Drac, Ph.D style of yours. You were quite specific, if you are going to make sweeping statements about issues you are ignorant about, then expect others, whether it be online or in your real life, to challenge your primitive views.
I didn’t change the analogy, just explained it to you. And if I didn’t want people to challenge me, I wouldn’t be participating in this discussion.
I based my opinion on what you wrote in black and white, nothing more and nothing less. Don’t make sweeping statements about issues you are unfamiliar with and then explain yourself afterwards. It isn’t rocket science is it.
These conversations go nowhere.
Enjoy your night Dr Drac.
10 July, 2017 at 5:33 pm #1060179Can you explain please Dr Drac, Ph.D. How did you reach the conclusion that Muslims fasting during Ramadan is on a par with pedophiles working in a school?
The logic in both cases is identical, the person believes themselves to be safe in a situation. Most other people think that it is not safe for them to be in that situation. If you look at the replies to this thread, you will see that a large majority of respondents agree that operating a crane while dehydrated or otherwise impared is not safe.
The logic is not the same at all and you have no evidence Dr Drac, Ph.D, to suggest otherwise. You have no evidence at all that Muslims are deliberately flouting the law in relation to operating heavy plant and dangerous machinery during Ramadan and fasting. As other religions fast and to place it on a par with pedophilia pretty much sums you up on this subject. Current Employment Law and Health and Safety regulation states a full risk assessment should be carried out in relation to the operation of dangerous plant and machinery if employees are fasting during Ramadan. The onus is on the employer to ensure this is carried out. If individuals are not adhering to this then they are in breach of the law. The law is quite specific about this issue.
Why do you keep on quoting laws to try to defend a stance of common sense ? Are you saying it is safe for someone weak with lack of food/drink to be handling dangerous equipment- a simple yes or no will suffice.
10 July, 2017 at 5:38 pm #1060180In what what are the examples dissimilar?
I cant be arsed playing Dr Drac, Ph.D, question game but I will respond to this one applying your kind of logic.. You placed all Muslims, Ramadan and fasting in the same risk box as pedophilia. All pedophiles without exception, are potentially a risk to children. All Muslims fasting during Ramadan don’t operate heavy plant and dangerous machinery and even then only a tiny minority are qualified to do so. Get it?
You can’t be arsed playing ” Dr drac ” game but keep referring to her in this creepy manner every post. The paedophile example was to illustrate how someone could still believe they are capable in a job despite being a danger.. a paedophile is a danger to the lives of kids, a muslim fasting during ramadan is a danger to lives full stop if he is behind the controls of a crane. What part of it don’t you “get”.
10 July, 2017 at 5:47 pm #1060185I would say a paedophile would definitely be a danger working in a school, a fasting Muslim operating a crane may
be a danger.You can’t compare sexual attraction to children to fasting. I would imagine a paedophile would be trying to gain employment in a school to get access to children, I doubt Muslims become crane operators as some sort of plot to endanger lives.
10 July, 2017 at 6:01 pm #1060186I would say a paedophile would definitely be a danger working in a school, a fasting Muslim operating a crane may be a danger.
I would use the word may for paedophiles. They are still human, and have some level of self control (some of them at least).
I agree with it being illegal for them to work with children, obviously.
10 July, 2017 at 6:32 pm #1060195You can’t be arsed playing ” Dr drac ” game but keep referring to her in this creepy manner every post. The paedophile example was to illustrate how someone could still believe they are capable in a job despite being a danger.. a paedophile is a danger to the lives of kids, a muslim fasting during ramadan is a danger to lives full stop if he is behind the controls of a crane. What part of it don’t you “get”.
As you and Dr Drac, to use her formal title, are so angry about this issue, perhaps you should lobby your local MP to change the current law. If you don’t know how to lobby an MP I will happily explain to you both.
10 July, 2017 at 6:39 pm #1060196As you and Dr Drac, to use her formal title, are so angry about this issue, perhaps you should lobby your local MP to change the current law. If you don’t know how to lobby an MP I will happily explain to you both.
My MP is Labour
10 July, 2017 at 6:46 pm #1060197As you and Dr Drac, to use her formal title, are so angry about this issue, perhaps you should lobby your local MP to change the current law. If you don’t know how to lobby an MP I will happily explain to you both.
My MP is Labour
You’re in luck then Dr Drac, the tories and UKIP want to reduce red tape in the workplace “elf n safety” and all that and labour support more protection for workers.
10 July, 2017 at 6:58 pm #1060200You can’t be arsed playing ” Dr drac ” game but keep referring to her in this creepy manner every post. The paedophile example was to illustrate how someone could still believe they are capable in a job despite being a danger.. a paedophile is a danger to the lives of kids, a muslim fasting during ramadan is a danger to lives full stop if he is behind the controls of a crane. What part of it don’t you “get”.
As you and Dr Drac, to use her formal title, are so angry about this issue, perhaps you should lobby your local MP to change the current law. If you don’t know how to lobby an MP I will happily explain to you both.
You don’t know how to do anything fella, you lurk drunk all day in a chatroom trolling threads with nonsense refusing to answer anything put to you posting childish smiley faces …dismissed.
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