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Toughie.
There you are, in pain and begging your loved one with silent eyes to do the right thing. And to carry the responsibility afterwards.
But in the very last second . . . . .
As with others, the whole thing with ‘legalised euthanasia’ and DNR (do not resucitate) instructions don’t sit well with me.It strikes me that the whole thing is like the thin edge of a particularly dangerous wedge.
A rule that says that one has to use all means to keep a person from dying seems pretty straightforward to me. If they subsequently pass away, then so be it – all reasonable efforts were made.
Once you allow that there are circumstances where they can be justifiably ‘killed’ you create a Pandora’s Box of issues. It becomes a ‘judgement issue where one person’s judgement might be for killing whereas another’s might be against killing. Who decides what is ‘right’ and what is ‘wrong’???
On balance I’m going to come down on the side of preserving life rather than taking it. Yes I know that some people’s ending will undoubtedly be unpleasant (and who knows, mine might be as well) but that is the way it ends for some. Others have a relatively easier ending and that’s the way it goes for them.
But if it’s a dog for instance the rule changes and it’s the kind thing to do ?
Legalised euthanasia will always be an emotive subject, and should it ever happen there would of course need to be a lot of safeguards in place. It would still be open to abuse of course, all the safeguards in the world can’t stop that. But I also believe there should be an opt-out.
Personally I have a living will…it has no legal standing but my nearest and dearest are aware of my wishes and it’s all written down to help minimise any comeback on them. Of course I also hope it will never be needed.
@gazlan wrote:
:shock: Well, maybe his mammy and daddy passed the ccr5-delta gene to him making him immune ….. :o They could have been celibate as well though, i dont think he will need much vaseline if they send him down….having been round the block :lol:
I just realised you looked up the name of the gene!!!
:)
@toybulldog wrote:
Toughie.
There you are, in pain and begging your loved one with silent eyes to do the right thing. And to carry the responsibility afterwards.
But in the very last second . . . . .
Think there is always going to be that doubt even if you are the one suffering unbearably there will nearly always be that second where you think … what if… maybe, but at the end of the day not only will you be ending your own suffering but the loved ones around you suffering the pain of seeing you suffering, not to mention the financial release on the NHS if you are allowed to just go, (yes i know thats irrelevant on an emotional level but all the same true). I definately fall on the side of release of their pain, i have as have many, been there, seen it, and in a way for me i would have done anything to keep them with me, but that was for my own selfish needs and wants, the look of pure peace cannot be explained and even if they had a seconds doubt, it wouldnt matter it was the best for them. (Not for me, but for them with or without that seconds doubt.) So in answer to the original point of the thread had i been asked, i’d maybe question it alot try and dissuade them for my benefit, but for them i would do it, murder or not!
@minim wrote:
@gazlan wrote:
:shock: Well, maybe his mammy and daddy passed the ccr5-delta gene to him making him immune ….. :o They could have been celibate as well though, i dont think he will need much vaseline if they send him down….having been round the block :lol:
I just realised you looked up the name of the gene!!!
:)
Except it doesn’t grant imuunity
I just realised you looked up the name of the gene!!!
Did you really…what made you realise that then ?
Except it doesn’t grant imuunity
To some it does although it seems they become more prone to other diseases
It gives immunity to some “strains” and delays the onset of AIDS and gives some resistance to others. The virus is constantly mutating due to “mistakes” when it replicates
Yes i agree, Some people only have certain `strains` fortunatley for them this mutant gene works in their favour to some extent
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