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TV presenter Ray Gosling has been arrested on suspicion of murder by Nottinghamshire Police after he admitted killing his lover.
The 70-year-old’s confession that he had smothered the unnamed man who was dying of Aids was broadcast on the BBC’s Inside Out programme on Monday.
The Nottingham filmmaker said he had made a pact with his lover to act if his suffering increased.
Police are questioning the presenter over his claims.
full article at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8519681.stm
Apart from i dont understand how if his lover had Aids Mr Gosling didnt contract it or even took the risk of contracting it i cant make my mind up whether he committed murder (morally speaking) or not
Well lawfully he has commited murder without a doubt. He smothered his partner preventing him from breathing which lead to his death.
Morally it surely has to be wrong. But a compasionate killing? Yes I think I could understand the reasons why.As for him not contracting aids..do we know he has not got the disease? I think Gazlan will love to comment on this post. :lol:
Naturally :lol:
:shock: Well, maybe his mammy and daddy passed the ccr5-delta gene to him making him immune ….. :o They could have been celibate as well though, i dont think he will need much vaseline if they send him down….having been round the block :lol:
Maybe Ray Goslins hit on hard times again and thought it may just help his career along a bit.
I use to enjoy the programmes he made.
Maybe he knows something that we don’t and he wants to clear his conscious before he meets his maker.
Maybe we will never know.
What I do find strange is that Central made this documentary (which was recorded) without the police viewing it first.
It had crossed my mind that this might be a publicity stunt at one point but having seen an interview of him talking about it, no one knows who the man is he is meant to have murdered and its a secret he is going to take the the grave apparently so without actual evidence his confession is useless I presume?
What I don’t understand is that suicide is no longer illegal, but you have to be well enough to physically commit your own suicide, and many of the people who want to end it all in these circumstances are in no ‘fit’ state to proceed with the act itself so is it that unlawful to help someone do what they want but cannot do themselves? However, there has to be ways and means.. not just a pillow over the head – am sure in our lives there have been times when its tempting to do that to someone but we can’t just all go around doing it and then saying… he asked me to can we lol
I never knew suicide was now legal, seems silly really as you couldn’t ever prosecute someone who succesfully commited suicide :lol:
So if somoene comits suicide is it true that their life insurance policies used to become invalid? And now its legal the insurance companies pay out? Something I’ve always wondered. :roll:Committing suicide is not illegal, however encouraging or helping someone to commit suicide is. When it was illegal, then those who tried but were unsuccessful could be taken to court.
Whether or not an insurance policy will pay out depends on the terms of the policy. Some do not exclude suicide at all, whilst others exclude it for a period of time, e.g. in the first 2 years of the policy.
It seems the emotive subject of assisted suicide and euthanasia is about to rear its head again.
I’m in favour of a the law being changed to permit euthanasia when a person is:
a) Terminally ill and is experiencing severe suffering, and
b) They had previously expressed a wish, before witnesses, that they would want their life to be terminated in such circumstances.While Mr. Gosling might have acted compassionately and done the best thing for his partner, a situation where people take the law into their own hands can’t go unchallenged. If we legalise euthanasia it would have to be permitted only after permission from experts had been gained, on a case-by-case basis.
If someone merely claims they killed someone many years ago to end their suffering, they could be lying – they might have done it because they didn’t want to see that person suffering, which is different. Or they could have done it for more sinister reasons. Or, perhaps, if they won’t name the individual concerned, the whole story might even be made up.
I suspect, though, that people who seriously consider ending the suffering of a loved one are prepared to face the possibility of life imprisonment as a price to pay for ending that suffering. It’s unacceptable that the law of the land puts people in such a position because the political establishment is reluctant to stand up to religious bigotry.
A few points:
Committing (or attempting to commit) suicide is no longer a criminal offence (Suicide Act 1967) BUT ‘aiding, abetting, counselling, or procuring’ an act of suicide is still illegal in the UK.
Secondly, as for insurance policies – i.e. life insurance. As has been said, it entirely depends on the wording of the particualr life cover. Most (but not all) life insurance policies are invalidated if the person, whose life is insured, commits suicide. They are usually intended to provide cover in the event of accidental death, or premature death due to illness or disease. They also usually only cover a person up to a stated age – mostly 65 – but they can run for longer but at a greatly increased premium.
Thirdly, and referring to the TV presenter, Ray Gosling. It wouldn’t be at all difficult to ascertain who his ‘long term’ (now deceased) partner was and equally a swift search of the Births, Marriages & Deaths Registry could provide his date & place of death. It’s only a short step to investigate the circumstances and apparent causes of his demise.
The highly charged and emotional statements made by Gosling to the effect that he would refuse to disclose any details “even under torture” seem to be ever so slightly over the top.
He is an ex-bankrupt who has apparently not worked regularly since his discharge. Maybe the comment that this current ‘confession’ is more to do with publicity seeking than anything else, is pretty close to the mark.
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