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Dont be pedantic PB it dont become you, you know fine well what Cas has asked. She does not want them banned. They are ideal for the elderly and disabled to get about on and it makes them feel independent. Cas is asking us to sign a petition so that people just cant drink then go driving their scooter around the place hitting people over and causing serious injury. As someone stated earlier, if we did that in a car, we would have the book thrown at us and rightly so, the same should stand for Scooter drivers
@*Dawny* wrote:
Im sorry but I think is pretty sick that you all make light of what has happened to Cas’s mum. Just think how you would feel if it was your mum eh
Well said Dawny. There’s a time and a place for humour, and a thread about an old lady being badly injured is neither of those. Cas started this thread looking to people that she obviously trusted for support, at a time that has been traumatic for her. Instead she finds nothing but mockery from those who find the source of the pain and trauma a bounty for cheap gags. You should be bloodywell ashamed!
@esmeralda wrote:
@*Dawny* wrote:
Im sorry but I think is pretty sick that you all make light of what has happened to Cas’s mum. Just think how you would feel if it was your mum eh
Well said Dawny. There’s a time and a place for humour, and a thread about an old lady being badly injured is neither of those. Cas started this thread looking to people that she obviously trusted for support, at a time that has been traumatic for her. Instead she finds nothing but mockery from those who find the source of the pain and trauma a bounty for cheap gags. You should be bloodywell ashamed!
the spiteful wee bug/ger will be suitably chastised never fear esme, :wink: 8)
Maybe banning Abbots Ale might just be the answer…. :-k
Oh I hope your mum is okay, what a nasty thing to happen. I know of three users of these things in our town who regularly drink and then try to navigate either through the town centre on them (after visiting the pub, visiting me at work and abusing me with beer breath) or on the main roads out of the town!
If they are drinnking and doing that sort of thing then they should have them taken away.
I Really hope she recovers fast and you are able to see a lot more of her in her old age.
Dont take the replies to heart…….. you really should not expect any less on here :wink:
(Having said that, Dead On Arrival………. thats the only ever post of yours that has actually made me laugh! :wink: :lol: )
Well this is all well and good Dawny, but Cas hasn’t suggested that the driver of this motorised wheelchair was drunk at the time of the accident. Simply that her aged mother got run into by one – and sadly was injured.
We assume that this acident happened on a pavement and that therefore the vehicle was a Class2 – speed restricted vehicle.
It could have been a total accident; it could have been an avoidable accident; it could even have been deliberate – we simply do not know, hence my questions.
However, the real underlying issue is that these conveyances are not classed as ”vehicles” within the meaning of the various Road Traffic Acts. A Class 3 scooter is considered a vehicle under the Road Traffic Acts in that there is a mandatory requirement for front and rear lights and Indicators if used on a road (but not a pavement). They are however exempt from Road Fund Licence and number plates under special rules. A class 2 scooter is exempt from these requirements but is confined to use only on the pavement.
So if you want to take issue with the use of these scooters then you need to campaign for a change in the Mobility Vehicle Regulations so that their use is restricted ONLY to those who hold a proper licence to drive them and are fully insured, and comply with the Road Traffic Acts etc etc.
Of course if you do this you will find that those disabled people who rely on using them to get around may well not be able to comply with the Road Traffic Act requirements and thus be confined to a wheelchair or their homes.
Tough choice isn’t it???
Shall we all debate further??
If you did happen to “campaign” successfully you would not only have thousands of people not liking you for taking away there only life line to the real world
but u would also be making them less mobile hence being home bound….
do you think that this is fair cas?
i understand your rather upset regarding the dangerour grandpa and his “wayward bound scooter” but just think if that person hadnt had that scooter he wouldnt have been able to get out then would be stuck at home which isnt fair in this day and age.id also urge you to see the inner issues here
your mum`s accident which yes was a shame and is really an accident hasnt only happened to her but has happend to others and they havent been as fortunate as your mam and have had more serious injurys to contend with.
Trying to get a licence on these things would be honestly impossible i could see u standing out side number 10 everyday for a year and still get no response beacause its not gonna happen the man who your saying did this because he was drunk may have been on medication which infact makes him drowsey-yes it does say dont operate machinary or veichals if you have some medication but your never know this
my advice to you would be let this one steer its cause after all
you may end up in one n run some one over and not be drunk you wouldnt like it being put down like this if u was the scooter driver would you??Not having a go just pointing out the facts
I hope your Mum gets better soon Cas xxxx
As for the other comments, well, just pay no heed. Imagine if your child/grandchild was hit by one of these things and shoved into the path of an oncoming car. Perhaps the situation wouldn’t seem so amusing then. I’ve seen them being ridden in the road, causing a queue, and all sorts, and yes, one day I may need one. But these are motorised vehicles and still should have some kind of licence to be used safely, not only for the person using it but those around them too.
As a final note, just because someone uses one does not mean they are suddenly above everyone else, disabled drivers still need a licence to drive a car, same difference, just smaller vehicle.
So if you have a mobility scooter are you disabled?
You can call me old fashion, but I always through if you were disabled, you got a wheel chair and an adapted car.
Not a mobility scooter
You don’t need a medical cert or doctors note to buy one, just cash.
I am sure most of the people using them are just trying it on or there kids have brought it for them.
Lets all face it, if it was teenagers riding them, they would soon be removed from our streets.
I never said anyone using them was disabled. But some disabled people do use them in any case, there are varying degrees of disability. So the point I made was obvious to most.
It seems you have also pointed out the obvious, anyone can buy one, you don’t need to learn how to use one, accidents on them do happen. Just because they aren’t fast, doesn’t mean they aren’t dangerous.
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