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    First came shock, then intrigue. But as the investigation into Michael Jackson’s death moves into its fourth day, with attention focused on his complex private medical arrangements, the singer’s family and fans have started to betray the first, signs of a third emotion: anger.

    The King of Pop suffered a cardiac arrest shortly after noon (local time) on Thursday, less than 45 minutes after his personal physician Dr Conrad Murray is reported to have administered an injection of Demerol, a synthetic painkiller similar to morphine, which the singer apparently called his “health tonic”.

    Jackson was 50 years old and weighed just nine stone, but is believed to have been blithely taking as many as eight prescription drugs a day. They included two other painkillers, Dilaudid and Vicodin, which are dangerous in large quantities and should never be mixed with other pharmaceuticals.

    Dr Murray, who was presiding over this regime, described himself as a “cardiovascular specialist”. He came from Las Vegas, was licensed in California, Nevada and Texas, and is reportedly hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt amid a string of legal disputes.

    Police have stressed that the physician is not the subject of a criminal investigation. But they nonetheless want to interview him to establish exactly what happened in the frantic final minutes after Jackson collapsed. It emerged yesterday that Dr Murray had hired a Houston-based lawyer, Edward Chernoff, to sit in on the discussions.

    He will be asked to talk through a transcript of the 911 call, which revealed that he was alone with Jackson at the time of his collapse and had attempted to administer CPR as the singer lay on a bed. Common first aid practice would normally see patients moved to a floor or hard surface before resuscitation is attempted.

    “The doctor’s been the only one here,” an unidentified caller told the emergency operator. “He’s pumping his chest but he’s not responding to anything, sir.”

    Paramedics reportedly wanted to declare Jackson dead at the scene, but Dr Murray persuaded them to transport him to UCLA Medical Center. He did not sign a death certificate, and disappeared briefly on Friday when police first attempted to speak to him.

    When the doctor is interviewed, he’ll be expected to provide details of the full range of drugs that Jackson was taking each day, which reportedly included Xanax, a sedative, Prilosec, a heartburn pill, Soma, a muscle relaxant, and Paxil, which treats anxiety.

    A BMW Dr Murray had used was seized by investigators from the driveway of the rented house in Holmby Hills where Jackson fell ill. A police spokesman told reporters: “It may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining cause of death.”

    Records have emerged that reveal Dr Murray, 51, suffered years of financial troubles. His Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was recently slapped with more than $400,000 (£240,000) in court judgments, and he faces two other pending lawsuits and several unpaid tax bills.

    The medic has never been subjected to disciplinary action, according to available records. He did not return messages left at his offices, and reporters got no reply on the doorstep of his home.

    Murray’s patients had received a letter this month saying: “Because of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, I have had to make a most difficult decision to cease practice of medicine immediately.” That “opportunity” was his appointment as Jackson’s personal doctor for the duration of his stint at the O2 in London.

    Friends claim that Jackson had been surrounded by “enablers” who let him fuel his long-standing addiction to prescription painkillers. Tarak Ben Ammar, one of the singer’s former managers, described him as a hypochondriac who for years had been taken advantage of by “charlatan doctors”.

    Dr Murray will now be expected to convince the police and public that he was not one of those “charlatans”.

    Jackson’s family gathered at their home in Encino last night to make funeral arrangements and comfort his three children. They arranged for moving vans to start emptying belongings from the Holmby Hills property.

    The family have requested a second independent post-mortem examination, a coroner’s officer said. The Reverend Jesse Jackson, a family friend who saw them on Friday, encouraged the move. He told ABC that there were many unanswered questions remaining about the death: “When did the doctor come? What did he do? Did he inject him? And if so, with what?”

    A source close to the family told the Associated Press that relatives are “confused, upset and angry” by the failure of some individuals who were with the singer during his final days to volunteer information about his movements and activities.

    The family also want to know exactly what role AEG Live, the concert promoter responsible for the O2 events, had been playing in his life. They are trying to establish whether the collection of advisers and representatives surrounding Jackson had been put in place by the company.

    Randy Phillips, AEG Live’s chief executive, has admitted that Dr Murray was being paid by his firm, but insists that he was hired at the request of Michael Jackson. “We would have preferred not having a physician on staff full-time because it would have been cheaper, but Michael was insistent,” Mr Phillips said.

    “Michael said he had a rapport with him. He just said, ‘Look, this whole business revolves around me. I’m a machine and we have to keep the machine well oiled,’ “

    Mr Phillips, whose firm faces substantial losses from the cancelled “This is it!” concerts, said Dr Murray was “very professional” and “seemed to care about Michael very much”. When the singer died on Thursday, “he [Dr Murray] was distraught. He could barely talk.”

    The Associated Press added that the Jackson family was “distrustful” of the singer’s former business associates and is “determined to find out more”. Its source claimed: “There are decisions going down without the family being in the loop. It’s becoming an issue.”

    Jackson’s siblings, including his sister Janet, who flew into Los Angeles on Friday, had not spoken to him in the weeks leading up to his death. However, contrary to some reports, they were not estranged.

    The star had also recently seen his father, Joe, and spoke regularly to his mother, Katherine, who maintained a close relationship with the star’s children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and Prince Michael II, seven, who is also known as Blanket. The two eldest are the offspring of Debbie Rowe, Jackson’s second wife and former nurse. The youngest was born to a surrogate mother, who was picked from a catalogue.

    A judge will be called on eventually to decide who gets custody of the children. It could prove a billion-dollar decision: the individual in question will also be in line for maintenance payments from Jackson’s estate. There has been a surge in album sales since his death, with his greatest hits collection, Number One, set to top the UK charts.

    Experts are divided as to whether Ms Rowe or Katherine Jackson would have the most compelling claim. Most agree that Prince Michael II’s surrogate mother, who is believed to live in Europe, does not have a case. Ms Rowe surrendered custody as part of her divorce settlement in 1999, and has for the past three years been allowed just one parental visit every 46 days.

    It was reported yesterday that she is ready to “fight tooth and nail” for the right to bring up her son and daughter. Her attorney, Iris Finsilver, released a statement describing her client as “inconsolable” and speaking of her former husband as “a beautiful and loving soul”.

    The coroner’s officials released Jackson’s body early on Saturday morning and it was taken to a Los Angeles funeral home. The family is debating whether to have a private funeral ceremony or a celebration open to the public. Autopsy results will not be fully revealed until toxicology tests are concluded, which could take between four and six weeks.

    A source at the coroner’s office told Fox News yesterday that Jackson had bruises on his chest consistent with someone trying to revive him, but there were no obvious signs of heart disease. This supports the theory that some sort of drug or combination of drugs could have caused the cardiac arrest.

    The source was surprised by how healthy Jackson appeared to be. Investigators noted, however, that there was significant scarring on his face, this being the first time they had seen Jackson without make-up.

    #399991

    agreed Gene Pitney top performer too
    sad end to a wonderful and talented career too.
    Sad thing is we all gotta go some time and we
    cant choose , but Gene is im sure still serenading
    people up above and down on earth too , truly
    good vocals never die .

    #399992

    Quiet man i think thats great in put
    and i hope Mr Temperton will get the credit
    he deserves , if he hasn’t already , he has
    got undoubted talent too.

    #399993

    pete !!!!

    Thats kind of here and now and just simply
    adds to the furore that causes the ” media circus ” .

    We all know the current hype @ cause of death
    and medication , my previous input was simply to
    shed light on a long forgotten past that was primarily
    un-just , un-called for and totally un-fair at the time it
    happened . Hounding any-one , celebrity or other-wise
    after a passing away simply isn’t on , and how the bloke
    turned out was majorly down to past events not current
    media hype.

    #399994

    jay

    @pete wrote:

    He will be asked to talk through a transcript of the 911 call, which revealed that he was alone with Jackson at the time of his collapse and had attempted to administer CPR as the singer lay on a bed. Common first aid practice would normally see patients moved to a floor or hard surface before resuscitation is attempted.

    .

    Not neccessarily so Pete, i am Medical Emergency Response Trained (MERT) and have been to incidents where peeps have tried to, and succeeded in taking their own lives, or deliberate self harm or cardiac arrests, and they are not always removed to a hard surface or floor, we have on some occassions performed CPR whilst the patient was on the bed,
    sometimes it happens
    :shock:

    #399995

    Thank you jay :D

    And all i want to say finally is……

    well actually… ”all i wanna say”… is …

    read , digest and understand the following …

    song and lyrics , read and digest people..

    http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/michael_jackson_lyrics_220/history_-_past_present_and_future_book_1_cd_2_lyrics_1100/they_dont_care_about_us_lyrics_12490.html

    see the mirror yet , looking into the mirror ,
    try starting with the person in the mirror !

    Might just make the world a better place x .

    thats the lyrics , watch the emotion and feeling that
    backs up his own written word’s in his performance
    to tell people how he felt…..

    #399996

    The harsh version …..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWMLAWrEjU&feature=related

    Could be any of us sat there…
    wrong place wrong time ? says
    it all really… think about that.

    #399997

    “Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up.”
    PABLO PICASSO

    It’s an interesting thing, reading all the posts here and elsewhere on the tragic death of Michael Jackson. I think the most striking aspect is the utter enormity of it all. It’s huge. Epochal. A global, human event. For those that would pour scorn on this assessment? I would draw attention to the fact that every word of opinion you write justifies it, and in perpetuating it so, negates any argument to the contrary.
    It’s a big deal.

    Michael Jackson was an artist. Now one would think we don’t really need to be told that huh? But.. you see.. I think we do. For his death is an ultimate tragedy, inextricably linked to the talents and gifts bestowed on him in life, as well as (crucially) our reactions to them. It is the classic Prometheus model.. extended by Mary Shelley.. and now reaching critical mass as we gorge on our “celebrity culture”, whilst deluding ourselves in thinking and saying that we have nothing to do with it! I’ve rambled on this before, so I’m not going to get further into it now.

    It is wonderful to see that almost everyone is agreed on Jackson’s monumental talent.. yet at times equally (and sadly) indicting to witness some of the more harsh criticisms leveled at his (and the irony should not be lost here) “private ” life. Some of it belies logic in fairness. Comparing the sexual abuse judgement acquitting Jackson to the OJ Simpson murder trial for example is rank stupidity. Simpson’s case displayed no legal or civil similarities or precedents in relation to Jackson’s only in that the accused was an African American male and a “celebrity”. Of course in the world of ignorant conspiracy this is enough to be let off with breaking the law yes?
    No.
    Simpson’s freedom was won through a mixture of HOW and WHEN it all happened. Despite a healthy amount of physical evidence, dogged determination from his defence team helped to deflect the true nature of the case, a post Rodney King jittery judiciary and botched police practices to name but a few won the day. None of these applied in the Jackson case, because, put simply, unlike with Simpson, the prosecution didnt go far enough in actually proving there was a case to be answered. Of course people will believe what they believe, and I’m not going to stand in anyone’s way there. But I will say that bringing up the Simpson case in comparison is redundant. One may as well compare it to a traffic citation. It is saddening to see people eagerly jump to such erroneous examples. Says a lot really.

    As for mass hysteria gig and some of the Princess Diana comparisons I’ve been reading? Let me deal with the latter first .. with all due respect to the Princess, she was neither artistic creator, entertainer or globably recognised as being touched by any true gift of genius. Granted, she was well loved and respected.. by none more so than the British people who showed a nobility at times in a national coming together with grief. Cynics would call this “mass hysteria”, and yes, some do take it a bit too far. I agree in part that Diana’s case was one such instance.. Jackson’s , yet again. is different. For something or someone to be at once universal, yet also possessing the gift of touching each of us, individually on an intimate level is an exceptional thing.
    We all know his songs.. they are everywhere.. but I guarantee you each one means something different to us all. This gift is one of the very pinnacles of human expression and bonding, reiterating that it is the very celebration of our differences that ultimately and paradoxically brings us closer. It is crucial, and when one of it’s most luminary exponents is lost it makes the world a far darker place. The rush to spite and cynicism.. the frantic rummaging for some manner of critical precedent in the last few days only goes to prove this fact.. as long as humanity craves for the lifeblood of creativity, it will (alas) prey on it’s wasted corpse.

    #399998

    jay

    @pete wrote:

    and if any truth can be known , it’s more likely
    to come from the people who did know him.

    like his family, like his sister who accused him of shall we say less than respectable relationships with children, or the jury who thought the same though there wasnt enough direct evidence to give a guilty verdict
    How many referred to him as Wacko Jacko who now wail and gnash at the loss of such a talented innocent, including the media.
    The man was talented but he wasnt normal either though of course that was everyone elses fault wasnt it?
    I’m not denying his talent but he wasnt a saint, and neither do i believe he was entirely innocent though i dont believe he should neccesarily be reviled either I dont think his acts were cold and calculating as such
    No doubt the people who didnt give him a second thought will go out and buy his albums now and make some producer very rich indeed

    I have to agree with ur point Pete, and likewise PB (posted after Pete) in reality if the ordinary man on the street had lets say, slept in the same bed as a number of children in the neighbourhood, and said it was down to pure love ….. what do u think would happen? angry parents, police intervention, court and highly likely prison or mental hospital….. enough said….
    there are many other abnormalities… some just hear say, news fodder, idle gossip….
    Picking up on PB’s point during his later years he was to an extent ridiculed and made fun of…. and now those peeps will b jumping on said bandwagon, mournin his death and bein shall we say… a tad hypocritical…..
    I am not a fan of Michael but i do fully undertsand that peeps r touched by his music and his being,
    In that instance should we not celebrate his life…. does his passing really make the world a darker place, or lets think about it differently, be positive and be thankful for the fact he was alive during our life time.
    :shock:

    #399999

    You make some excellent points Jay, as does Sgt Pepper and others, and I largely agree with them.

    OK I’m not a fan of his music – although millions are – and I didn’t find his incessant crotch grabbing dance moves particularly attractive, although these ‘dance’ moves clearly added to the overall effect he created. A sort of showmanship if you prefer.

    As does Pete, I find his posthumous elevation to a world wide icon status somewhat nauseating. Yes he was a highly talented musician and performer with a frankly rather disturbing lifestyle.

    I guess for me the sadness is in the already circling vultures ready to gorge on his corpse through lawsuits for ludicrously large sums of money coupled with those who now conveniently forget the humiliating finger pointing when he was alive (Wacko Jacko etc etc) and want to portray him as some sort of sainted genius.

    The losers will be those fans that paid thousands for a seat at his O2 ‘final’ concert via E-Bay etc and who will most certainly lose most if not all of their money.

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