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@Bad Manners wrote:
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So what? . The worst case scenario is that the little girl’s dead. If she is dead she could be buried. Therefore its hardly baffling that the body hasnt been found yet is it?
She could still be alive though even though no trace of her has been found. How about that little girl from Poland or somewhere that recently was found. She was missing for 7 years or something. How does that fit into your theory PB.
PB you keep going on about these statistics. 90 percent of cases are found to be someone connected to the family or whatever. It still leaves 10 percent of cases where that isnt the case. Chelsea win most of their games, doesnt mean they win them all. These people cant be put under suspicion because of some statistic.“These people cant be put under suspicion because of some statistic”
Why not?
If they only have a 1 in 10 chance of being innocent then they are 9 times more likely to be guilty so common sense alone would suggest you start by playing the odds and PROVE theyre innocent rather than just tip toe around them and hope they are
If you HAD to cross a lava pit and only had a choice of two bridges to do so, one of which collapsed 90% of the time it was used and one that only collapsed 10% of the time with each collapse causing the death of those crossing are you really expecting people to believe you would go with the one that collapsed 9 times as many times as the other lol?
Course not, you’d start with the one that presented the best odds of success (well a sane person would)
So I dont see how a 1 in 10 chance of innocence is reason to NOT see them as possible suspects, thats not a very “real world” application of probability
@fastcars wrote:
Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.
LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty
So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain
@~Pebbles~ wrote:
i just wish people would give the family a break, theyve lost a kid fgs! :evil:
personally, i still think the neighbour might have something to do with it. Hes been taken in for questioning a few times now. No smoke without fire. Makes sense really because it sounds like its someone whos been watching the family.
They left their 3 year old daughter alone in a foriegn country, because of which she is missing perhaps dead, they dont deserve any breaks
@ubermik wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.
LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty
So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain
What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!
@fastcars wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.
LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty
So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain
What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!
Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? Theirs, for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.
@ubermik wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
@forumhostpb wrote:
In theory it would. However it then poses far more questions than it answers.
How would a total stranger decide to select that particular apartment, somehow ‘know’ that it was unlocked; again somehow ‘know’ that a young girl was left in there alone and unprotected; then somehow spirit the little girl away to somewhere so that literally nobody in the world ever sees her again;and so on.
The ‘stranger’ version seems to pose more unanswerable questions than the other ‘family’ version ….. which is possibly why the media have now turned on the sainted McCanns.
Sorry dude, but youre fair game tonight.
They could have been watching the family’s movements for days, and could have been watching their movements on that particular day. If they were doing that then they would hardly “know” all that by guesswork would they.
It’s hardly Rocket Science is it? Cant believe that you put this one forward.LOL
WOW, such gifted and talented abductors eh? They just happened to pick the one family who WOULDNT be keeping an eye on their kids constantly whilst in a foreign country, how amazing is THAT then lol, was it a “guess” dya reckon or do the MCanns have “cheap wine poor parent” tattooed on their foreheads?
Hardly likely that a team (coz it would HAVE to be a team) of abductors would just pick THIS family at random and then meticulously watch them to suss out a pattern in what would most likely be an irregular itenary anyway JUST on the offchance that they MIGHT leave their kids unnattended for a long period of time like hardly anyone ever does whilst on holiday
AND, lets suppose despite the total lack of any logic whatsoever that that WAS the case, after going to all that trouble I am sure they would have really taken all three kids to make it worth their while rather than just the one considering they did ALL that “planning” and surveillance eh?
LOL
Maybe they only had the chance to take one of them eh? Maybe that’s all they/he/she had time for eh?.
Maybe it was someone who was vaguely farmiliar with the McCanns, and who noticed that they were out without their kids, and who took what they saw was an opportunity.@ubermik wrote:
@Bad Manners wrote:
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So what? . The worst case scenario is that the little girl’s dead. If she is dead she could be buried. Therefore its hardly baffling that the body hasnt been found yet is it?
She could still be alive though even though no trace of her has been found. How about that little girl from Poland or somewhere that recently was found. She was missing for 7 years or something. How does that fit into your theory PB.
PB you keep going on about these statistics. 90 percent of cases are found to be someone connected to the family or whatever. It still leaves 10 percent of cases where that isnt the case. Chelsea win most of their games, doesnt mean they win them all. These people cant be put under suspicion because of some statistic.“These people cant be put under suspicion because of some statistic”
Why not?
If they only have a 1 in 10 chance of being innocent then they are 9 times more likely to be guilty so common sense alone would suggest you start by playing the odds and PROVE theyre innocent rather than just tip toe around them and hope they are
If you HAD to cross a lava pit and only had a choice of two bridges to do so, one of which collapsed 90% of the time it was used and one that only collapsed 10% of the time with each collapse causing the death of those crossing are you really expecting people to believe you would go with the one that collapsed 9 times as many times as the other lol?
Course not, you’d start with the one that presented the best odds of success (well a sane person would)
So I dont see how a 1 in 10 chance of innocence is reason to NOT see them as possible suspects, thats not a very “real world” application of probability
LOL
As Fastcars has mentioned people are innocent until proven guilty. Even if the statistic was 99.99 percent, these people would still be innocent until proven guilty.@bat wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.
LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty
So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain
What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!
Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? There,s for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.
So which of you gossip mongers is correct then because between you you cant seem to decide if it was the front door that was left open or the patio doors.
But lets take Battys version of events that it was the patio doors as gospel.
Now looking at the photo that you yourself have posted Batty I would suggest that the patio doors lead out onto a balcony that is ringed by quite a large wall. The only possible people that may have access to this balcony “might” be the appartment adjacent but as far as I can see that would be it. There is certainly no way such a young child could escape which maybe explains why the family found it uneccessary to lock it. There is certainly no road anywhere in the vicinity as the appartment is at least two or three levels up so your exaggerated theory is exactly that. Exaggerated!so are the parents responsible for what happened?
or irresponsible??
alot of people need to make it clear i think as alot of covering up what people mean is happening,
Is it their fault?
a simple yes or no will do if thats not too hard@fastcars wrote:
@bat wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
@fastcars wrote:
Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.
LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty
So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain
What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!
Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? There,s for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.
So which of you gossip mongers is correct then because between you you cant seem to decide if it was the front door that was left open or the patio doors.
But lets take Battys version of events that it was the patio doors as gospel.
Now looking at the photo that you yourself have posted Batty I would suggest that the patio doors lead out onto a balcony that is ringed by quite a large wall. The only possible people that may have access to this balcony “might” be the appartment adjacent but as far as I can see that would be it. There is certainly no way such a young child could escape which maybe explains why the family found it uneccessary to lock it. There is certainly no road anywhere in the vicinity as the appartment is at least two or three levels up so your exaggerated theory is exactly that. Exaggerated!Fasty the patio doors were left unlocked so the parents could get in and out easly, thats a fact. You have completly missed the point I was trying to make, which was, IF, one of the kids had woken up and wandered out of the apartment, because of the doors being unlocked, and then got run over, would you be so quick to defend the negligent McCanns then? And yes there is a road in the vicinity, the bloody McCanns had to cross it to get to their cosy little resturant didnt they. :roll:
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