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27 August, 2007 at 11:20 am #282249
The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!27 August, 2007 at 12:55 pm #282250@anita Gofradump wrote:
The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!I have enmormous sympathy with you view.
The latest complaint from the sainted McCanns is that the Portuguese Police are refusing to tell them anything at all about any suspicions they might currently have or any lines of enquiry that they are developing.
Given the enormously high media profile that the McCanns have actively created and encouraged, this hardly comes as much of a surprise.
Also, and IF the Police are looking more and more at Maddie’s family / friends – rather than the highly improbable theory of a totally random stranger attack/kidnapping – then they would hardly want to discuss their suspicions with any prospective culprits would they?
One thing does suprise me though – why is it that in spite of all the publicity from the likes of David Beckham and other high profile media celebrities and countless major football clubs plastering Maddie’s picture all over their ‘big screens’ etc etc not to mention the rich and famous jumping on the tear stained McCann Papal bandwaggon ….. not a trace of Maddie has been found – worldwide !!! Absolutley and utterly nothing.
Strange that huh?
27 August, 2007 at 1:27 pm #282251@anita Gofradump wrote:
The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!Your quite right Anita it is indeed. Apparantly Mr McCann is thinking of going back to work once they return to the UK. I wonder what kind of reception they will get from the media and the general public when they do return. Take a look at this, and watch the interview with Mr McCann.
LINKHe always seems so buisness like to me when he talks about his missing daughter. There isn,t a shred of emotion anywhere. Whenever the saintly pair have appeared in public, there,s no evidence to even suggest either of them have been shedding any tears, even in the first few days. I know damn well if that had been me, making a public appearance, my eyes would have been red raw and puffy.
I wonder what Mrs McCann will do when they return to the UK. Will she dump the remaining kids in pre school and go back to work as well?
27 August, 2007 at 1:43 pm #282252@bat wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!Your quite right Anita it is indeed. Apparantly Mr McCann is thinking of going back to work once they return to the UK. I wonder what kind of reception they will get from the media and the general public when they do return. Take a look at this, and watch the interview with Mr McCann.
LINKHe always seems so buisness like to me when he talks about his missing daughter. There isn,t a shred of emotion anywhere. Whenever the saintly pair have appeared in public, there,s no evidence to even suggest either of them have been shedding any tears, even in the first few days. I know damn well if that had been me, making a public appearance, my eyes would have been red raw and puffy.
I wonder what Mrs McCann will do when they return to the UK. Will she dump the remaining kids in pre school and go back to work as well?
They cannot return to work and normality, everyone knows who they are, and they will be hounded by the media watching there every move making it impossible for them to go back to life before.
I know what you are saying about showing no emotion etc, not long after maddy went missing, there have been a number of people on tv saying about there kids went missing years ago so they understand it etc, but every one of them have still be emotional, and for 1 woman it was 18yrs ago her kid vanished and you would think it was yesterday with how upset she was, something very wrong in this case with maddy.
27 August, 2007 at 2:12 pm #282253@sweetass wrote:
trouble is the macanns are in a no win situation ……….if they keep actively encouraging media , they’re seen as bad and just wanting fame .. they don’t care for their child cos they’re just after their fifteen minutes.. yet they’re only trying to keep the fact that their child is missing alive.. if they sink into obscurity they’ll slated for not caring enough or giving up on her … whatever they do is wrong …………….so what can you say :?: :?:
I dont think many people would have criticised them for going back home, leaving the professionals to continue the search and concentrating on giving the other two kids as normal a life as they can so that would seem like a “win” whereas clinging to the limelight, making it less likely she will ever be found and getting up peoples noses as the parents monotone witterings become tedious would seem like a lose
So I see it as a win/lose situation, and theyre currently choosing loosing
27 August, 2007 at 2:49 pm #282254@anita Gofradump wrote:
@bat wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!Your quite right Anita it is indeed. Apparantly Mr McCann is thinking of going back to work once they return to the UK. I wonder what kind of reception they will get from the media and the general public when they do return. Take a look at this, and watch the interview with Mr McCann.
LINKHe always seems so buisness like to me when he talks about his missing daughter. There isn,t a shred of emotion anywhere. Whenever the saintly pair have appeared in public, there,s no evidence to even suggest either of them have been shedding any tears, even in the first few days. I know damn well if that had been me, making a public appearance, my eyes would have been red raw and puffy.
I wonder what Mrs McCann will do when they return to the UK. Will she dump the remaining kids in pre school and go back to work as well?
They cannot return to work and normality, everyone knows who they are, and they will be hounded by the media watching there every move making it impossible for them to go back to life before.
I know what you are saying about showing no emotion etc, not long after maddy went missing, there have been a number of people on tv saying about there kids went missing years ago so they understand it etc, but every one of them have still be emotional, and for 1 woman it was 18yrs ago her kid vanished and you would think it was yesterday with how upset she was, something very wrong in this case with maddy.
Exactly right Anita. The McCanns response is in stark contrast to the mother of Ben Needham, who, years later, is still struggling to come to terms with the loss of her son.Ben
No audiences with the pope for her. Just utter devastation……still.27 August, 2007 at 3:27 pm #282255If the Mcanns had a major role to play in her abduction or actually carried it out themselves then why encourage all this media attention? In their shoes I wouldnt exactly try and keep a low profile but I would certainly do my upmost to discourage attention rather than encourage it to the extent that they have.
27 August, 2007 at 3:57 pm #282256@fastcars wrote:
If the Mcanns had a major role to play in her abduction or actually carried it out themselves then why encourage all this media attention? In their shoes I wouldnt exactly try and keep a low profile but I would certainly do my upmost to discourage attention rather than encourage it to the extent that they have.
The art of convincing lying 101
1) The most convincing lies have a proportion of truth because psychologically the truthfull parts make the person seem more convincing and thus more easily believed in contrast to a wholly ficticious tale
2) the bigger a lie and/or more heartreding/socially avoided topic its based around the less people will question or keep an open mind and the more the majority of social sheep will instantly switch into sympathy/empathy mode
3) it wouldnt be the first time a kids killers have soaked up all the media attention they could get hoping that being so public would “prove” they couldnt have anything to do with it by the same logic you just displayed “If the Mcanns had a major role to play in her abduction or actually carried it out themselves then why encourage all this media attention?”
4) when someones back is against the wall anything goes, and I am guessing these two are quite used to their above averagely comfy lifestyle so they have a lot to lose and therefore a lot to make it worth trying to seem convincing because of
5) people tend to try and assume normality, but lets suppose for a moment both of them are sociopaths, firstly they wouldnt have any guilt, remorse or negative feelings to any deep degree to be controlling which would seem to fit in with not only their professions but also the reason they have been criticised and suspected via the media, but to them they would feel “normal” (as to them it IS normal) and therefore as seemingly “distraught” as the next person would be.
So they could possibly be wanting to be seen in the limelight because it would add to the feeling of “getting away with it” or superiority as often goes hand in hand with sociopathic mentalities, but they would also be more focused on the positives rather than any negatives because of a) thinking they are convincing and are unlikely to get caught out and b) because sociopaths also often tend to have a feeling of entitlement and underecognition almost bordering on narcicism at times
So, rather than a whoppingly huge lie as most people would see it, if it was the case with these two and if they were sociopathic then it would just be “whats needed” to get away with it spiced with being the centre of attention for a while as they would feel they deserve as well as the visual longevity to them equating to the pretence of “caring” in a mind that cant feel, show or convincingly fake the more emotional displays others would show….. so they substitute dragging it out under the impression it will seem the same to onlookers whilst having the benefit of being a REALLY massive holiday off work too
So nah, I really dont think anything they have done is that surprising, its along the lines of when a killer voluntarily goes to the police station to offer their help even when not under suspicion which is also often the mark of a sociopathic/narcicistic mentality at work
27 August, 2007 at 5:09 pm #282257To echo the above ….. didn’t Ian Huntley (the convicted murderer of Holly & Jessica) go to the Police and offer them his assistance in the search for them … when all the time he KNEW what had happened to them and where their bodies were concealed???
There are I am sure many many other cases in recent times where the
perpetrator(s) of a crime have offered their assistance to Police as if they were innocent members of the public.27 August, 2007 at 5:31 pm #282258@forumhostpb wrote:
To echo the above ….. didn’t Ian Huntley (the convicted murderer of Holly & Jessica) go to the Police and offer them his assistance in the search for them … when all the time he KNEW what had happened to them and where their bodies were concealed???
There are I am sure many many other cases in recent times where the
perpetrator(s) of a crime have offered their assistance to Police as if they were innocent members of the public.
He sure did PB. We often saw him on our local news, (Look East), standing there outside his house, which has since been demolished, offering all the help he could. -
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