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true !
i HATE that expression too..full of self congratularity geekiness..and a NO brain to conclude.concede a mere reply..!
a get out clause for “thickos” oooooh ” she/he Bit”,,and normally a right thick wee fooker !
@rubyred wrote:
true !
i HATE that expression too..full of self congratularity geekiness..and a NO brain to conclude.concede a mere reply..!
a get out clause for “thickos” oooooh ” she/he Bit”,,and normally a right thick wee fooker !
im not saying im trying to wind them up ruby im saying that i can happily not have the last word on anything and just because someone doesnt like what i have to say i dont see why i get called thick?
maybe i should just go along with them and then il be oh so clever just like them
i see..im sorry hon…as a non liverpudlian im in a right moody..
i CAn continue 24 paragraphs down,,but im more enigmatic :)
/huffy face,dundee.
So …. back to the plot.
I see from yesterday’s UK press that the ‘beatified’ McCanns are now complaining bitterly about the media intrusion into their lives; about how they cannot even go for a simple walk together (with the expressionless Mrs McCann grasping a child’s toy for media effect) without being ‘hounded’ by reporters and cameras.
It even seems that the Portuguese press are now openly suggesting that Maddie died in the flat where she was abandoned by her parents; they allege that she was somehow poisoned and that the McCanns concealed this; they are saying that her body was later on removed in a car hired for the purpose and that it was concealed whilst the Police conducted their initial searches.
Of course and as you would expect, the McCanns are strongly denying this version of events and sticking to their story that a complete and utter total stranger forcibly broke into the flat (through an unlocked door) and abducted Maddie leaving absolutely no forensic trace whatsoever.
I can’t help wondering if the tide of public opinion is beginning to turn against the sainted McCanns.
@rubyred wrote:
true !
i HATE that expression too..full of self congratularity geekiness..and a NO brain to conclude.concede a mere reply..!
a get out clause for “thickos” oooooh ” she/he Bit”,,and normally a right thick wee fooker !
I will have to quote this next time Ugo gets his fishing rod out.. :D
ooppssss…. soz… back on topic plz.. 8-[
@forumhostpb wrote:
So …. back to the plot.
I see from yesterday’s UK press that the ‘beatified’ McCanns are now complaining bitterly about the media intrusion into their lives; about how they cannot even go for a simple walk together (with the expressionless Mrs McCann grasping a child’s toy for media effect) without being ‘hounded’ by reporters and cameras.
It even seems that the Portuguese press are now openly suggesting that Maddie died in the flat where she was abandoned by her parents; they allege that she was somehow poisoned and that the McCanns concealed this; they are saying that her body was later on removed in a car hired for the purpose and that it was concealed whilst the Police conducted their initial searches.
Of course and as you would expect, the McCanns are strongly denying this version of events and sticking to their story that a complete and utter total stranger forcibly broke into the flat (through an unlocked door) and abducted Maddie leaving absolutely no forensic trace whatsoever.
I can’t help wondering if the tide of public opinion is beginning to turn against the sainted McCanns.
And yet by contrast, when the media were textually showering them with “poor you”‘s they didnt seem to see it as an intrusion and didnt seem to be able to get enough press “intrusion” into their and their two remaining kids lives
So is it the actual intrusion they dislike or the fact the press has got past the socially indoctrinated knee jerk response and is now being more objective thats the problem?
@forumhostpb wrote:
So …. back to the plot.
I see from yesterday’s UK press that the ‘beatified’ McCanns are now complaining bitterly about the media intrusion into their lives; about how they cannot even go for a simple walk together (with the expressionless Mrs McCann grasping a child’s toy for media effect) without being ‘hounded’ by reporters and cameras.
It even seems that the Portuguese press are now openly suggesting that Maddie died in the flat where she was abandoned by her parents; they allege that she was somehow poisoned and that the McCanns concealed this; they are saying that her body was later on removed in a car hired for the purpose and that it was concealed whilst the Police conducted their initial searches.
Of course and as you would expect, the McCanns are strongly denying this version of events and sticking to their story that a complete and utter total stranger forcibly broke into the flat (through an unlocked door) and abducted Maddie leaving absolutely no forensic trace whatsoever.
I can’t help wondering if the tide of public opinion is beginning to turn against the sainted McCanns.
Now mebbe im a bit fik…… but wouldnt it be far far easier for somebody to walk into a hotel room and pick a child out of its bed and walk away leaving “no forensic trace whatsoever” than it would to have accidentally poisoned the child.. which led to her death.. which then had to be hidden… and of course .. dispose of the body without raising anybodies suspicions…… AND leave “no forensic trace behind whatsoever”… :-k
In theory it would. However it then poses far more questions than it answers.
How would a total stranger decide to select that particular apartment, somehow ‘know’ that it was unlocked; again somehow ‘know’ that a young girl was left in there alone and unprotected; then somehow spirit the little girl away to somewhere so that literally nobody in the world ever sees her again;and so on.
The ‘stranger’ version seems to pose more unanswerable questions than the other ‘family’ version ….. which is possibly why the media have now turned on the sainted McCanns.
@fastcars wrote:
@forumhostpb wrote:
So …. back to the plot.
I see from yesterday’s UK press that the ‘beatified’ McCanns are now complaining bitterly about the media intrusion into their lives; about how they cannot even go for a simple walk together (with the expressionless Mrs McCann grasping a child’s toy for media effect) without being ‘hounded’ by reporters and cameras.
It even seems that the Portuguese press are now openly suggesting that Maddie died in the flat where she was abandoned by her parents; they allege that she was somehow poisoned and that the McCanns concealed this; they are saying that her body was later on removed in a car hired for the purpose and that it was concealed whilst the Police conducted their initial searches.
Of course and as you would expect, the McCanns are strongly denying this version of events and sticking to their story that a complete and utter total stranger forcibly broke into the flat (through an unlocked door) and abducted Maddie leaving absolutely no forensic trace whatsoever.
I can’t help wondering if the tide of public opinion is beginning to turn against the sainted McCanns.
Now mebbe im a bit fik…… but wouldnt it be far far easier for somebody to walk into a hotel room and pick a child out of its bed and walk away leaving “no forensic trace whatsoever” than it would to have accidentally poisoned the child.. which led to her death.. which then had to be hidden… and of course .. dispose of the body without raising anybodies suspitions…… AND leave “no forensic trace behind whatsoever”… :-k
But if the ONLY people there were the family their “forensic” traces no matter how numersous wouldnt be a sign of anything at all as its their hotel room, what I am guessing is missing is a fresh trace of any dna matter from anyone not already associated with the room
The MCanns themselves could have done whatever they wanted and it would still be expected forensic biomatter, whereas although not impossible anyone else entering the room would have been likely to have left a hair, skin flake, partial fingerprint or fiber of material from their clothes as those things are almost constantly falling off us as we go about our daily business
I would guess they are working along the line of assumption that they might have without nefarious intent drugged the kids to make sure they stayed asleep during which time either as a reaction to the drugs or as a normal consequence like vomitting maddy died at which point one of both of the Mcanns chose to dispose of the body and claim abduction rather than be held culpable for what could simply have been an accident but would still have been child manslaughter during a period of abandonment which cannot despite what many would prefer to think be ruled out as a possibility
Nor can far more haenous scenarious like Maddy at 3 now being old enough to start talking about being abused and having just started to do so and therefore needing to be silenced
or one of the parents drunkenly lashing out in anger when she wouldnt settle down and sleep so they could party and her dying as a result of a mere slap or shaking
As medical professionals even an accidental death at their own hands could decimate or even end their career but child abuse or illegal use of drugs could see them both being struck off too so they would have far more to lose than fred the factory worker and doris the cleaning lady would have
@forumhostpb wrote:
In theory it would. However it then poses far more questions than it answers.
How would a total stranger decide to select that particular apartment, somehow ‘know’ that it was unlocked; again somehow ‘know’ that a young girl was left in there alone and unprotected; then somehow spirit the little girl away to somewhere so that literally nobody in the world ever sees her again;and so on.
The ‘stranger’ version seems to pose more unanswerable questions than the other ‘family’ version ….. which is possibly why the media have now turned on the sainted McCanns.
Well to maintain some balance here, that would only be SUCH an outside possibility if the world was so transparently black and white that each person ONLY had ONE negative trait
So in that non-existant world a burglar would ONLY be a burglar, a paedo ONLY a paedo, a child slaver ONLY a child slaver
Back here on the actual planet earth tho, its not uncommon for people to have multiple negative traits, so what could simply have started as someone routinely checking doors to see if any holiday makers had left a door open in their rush to get holidaying could then have turned into a bonus when rather than just nicking a camera and some jewelry or identification they happened upon a some small children they could get either more money for or more derived pleasure from
Its only such an outside possibility if, unrealistically someone assumes in those kind of burglaries someone is magically drawn to an open door which obviously in nonsense. Either they find it after much trying of locked doors or the door in some cases wont have closed properly and will be obvious to see as being open and unlocked at which point chance kicks in with an instance like this and youre either lucky enough that none of the persons other negative traits concern kids and they JUST burgle the place as the kids sleep, they DO in which case the kids become the focus of their interest at the expense of the goods they could steal OR one of the kids wakes up and they have to do something about that to avoid discovery which is far more “real world” than the suppossition that the end result was the actual and planned initial one rather than just adlibbing and improvising as the situation evolved
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