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22 August, 2007 at 11:56 am #282219
@token_male wrote:
Rename the thread PB please something like
Blameless parents and saints of justchat put the world to rights
or…………..parents who have NEVER left their children alone…………..versus those who have and now feel the need to defend the mcanns mind numbingly stupid actions. :roll:
22 August, 2007 at 12:17 pm #282220even rename the the Thread….. Maddie would still be with her parents and siblings… IF they had her with them or had a babysitter…!!!
im sorry but she wouldnt be missing or even sorry for saying it dead…. if her parents acted responsible….
22 August, 2007 at 12:30 pm #282221@cas wrote:
All joking aside though, because it isn’t a joking matter.
I have to agree with PB,,,,he’s made some very valid points,,,,as he said,,,,let’s wait and see, we might be surprised at the outcome of all of this,,,,well some of us might anyway
What happens if they didnt have something to do with it. Are you gonna eat humble pie, apologise and admit that ya’ll went on like a bunch of vile Witchhunters.
Saying these people were irresponsible is one thing, saying they had something to with it is quite another. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.22 August, 2007 at 12:31 pm #282222@sailingal wrote:
All this “self-inflicted” media hype was very suspicious to me from the start to be honest. The parents know what happened, if you ask me.
No one asked you so shut ya gob.
22 August, 2007 at 1:50 pm #282223@Bad Manners wrote:
@cas wrote:
All joking aside though, because it isn’t a joking matter.
I have to agree with PB,,,,he’s made some very valid points,,,,as he said,,,,let’s wait and see, we might be surprised at the outcome of all of this,,,,well some of us might anyway
What happens if they didnt have something to do with it. Are you gonna eat humble pie, apologise and admit that ya’ll went on like a bunch of vile Witchhunters.
Saying these people were irresponsible is one thing, saying they had something to with it is quite another. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.i said the mcanns were irresponsible…………….NOT responsible.
22 August, 2007 at 2:07 pm #282224@bassingbourne55 wrote:
The parents say that what they did was equivalent to leaving a child asleep in the house while they were in a large garden.
In this country I believe it is illegal to leave a child alone in the house but it is not illegal to let a child wander the streets alone (which is probably more risky). How many people let children only a year or two older than Madeleine walk to and from school on their own?
An analogy: – You lend your car to a relation. Your car is in good condition. They drive through town in a safe manner within the speed limit. Suddenly a car coming the other way pulls out to overtake recklessly, forcing your friend to slam on the brakes to avoid a collision. The cars do not collide but your car slews across the road and knocks down and kills a pedestrian. In the investigation it was found that one of the front tyres on your car was under inflated. But you had checked the tyres the day before and they were all OK. The police cannot find any witnesses to corroborate your friend’s claim that there was a car overtaking dangerously. Who was to blame for the accident? You? Your friend? The alleged overtaking driver? The tyre company?
Some of the people posting here should be ashamed of the nasty, hateful (and possibly libellous) poisoned pen remarks they have posted. Stop crying your crocodile tears just so you can get off on kicking people when they are down.
Seems people are very conveniently forgetting the age here
It wouldnt be frowned on any less letting a three year old wander the streets, she WAS 3!!!!!!!!
Not 13, not 9, not even 6 but 3!!!
Had they left a 13 year old and two 12 year olds in the hotel room alone I for one would see this as being anywhere near as bad bar them leaving the place unlocked
Had they let her out in the street at 3 and she had been run over that would STILL be their fault, but again had she been 13, or even 9 it wouldnt have been so bad
Infact I dont even think leaving children alone in a totally foriegn country is anywhere near as forgiveable as leaving them at home where all other considerations are equal as at least there theres some chance of neighbours being vigilant whereas in a holiday resort the “nieghbours” will mostly be out having their friggin holiday and even if not wont exactly be keeping an eye out in the slightest
But add to this the fact the doors werent even locked AND that the complex offers a registered child minding service BECAUSE its totally illegal to leave kids under 14 alone there this really is unforgiveable
And I take exception to the ridiculous claims that “most parents” leave their kids alone at some point” lol, none that I know of have because IF they had I’d have remembered it because of ripping a strip off them for being so f’cking irresponsible
When I was with my ex apart from being in a different room they were NEVER left alone ever, if we HAD to go somewhere they came with us, if that wasnt feasible we didnt go END OF!
Other than that we had a babysitter, if we couldnt get one then again we didnt go out, simple as that
Kids arernt a trivial ornamental niceity to be discarded as and when they become an inconvenience, they are, or SHOULD be a primary concern, one that takes preceedence above all else. And if someone isnt prepared to treat them as such then they should have had a puppy instead
I also cant see the similarity in the car analogy either, did you realise theres supposed to be some similarity with analogous comparatives? :?
A better one would be them knowing the tyre was flat whilst at their local quickfit but deciding to not have it fixed because it would make them late for a party, on the way to which the same tyre blew out causing them to swerve onto the path killing a three year old little girl walking along the path
Then them saying “Oh well, we are conscientious car maintainers but we are just a little bit naive and didnt realise that driving on a bald tyre might be dangerous and irresponsible, but on the bright side the mother of the little girl still has two other kids so its not THAT bad really”
THATS an analogy that actually resembles this topic, yours seems to only have relevance to someone practising solvent abuse from where I’m sitting
23 August, 2007 at 2:05 pm #282225I read in the papers today that the strong theory now is that she died accidentally in the hotel. So I take it that they’re suggesting one of the party found her body and disposed of it?
Personally, I find that theory more disturbing than any others.
23 August, 2007 at 3:05 pm #282226I saw this today.
latest theoryIf she was killed in the apartment, how, and more importantly, why? Apparantly the MacCanns are thinking about sueing a portugese journalist over allegations she made that Mrs McCann murdered Maddie.
23 August, 2007 at 3:11 pm #282227theres something fishy about madelines parents and im sure they will be found out………
23 August, 2007 at 3:33 pm #282228@Bad Manners wrote:
@cas wrote:
All joking aside though, because it isn’t a joking matter.
I have to agree with PB,,,,he’s made some very valid points,,,,as he said,,,,let’s wait and see, we might be surprised at the outcome of all of this,,,,well some of us might anyway
What happens if they didnt have something to do with it. Are you gonna eat humble pie, apologise and admit that ya’ll went on like a bunch of vile Witchhunters.
Saying these people were irresponsible is one thing, saying they had something to with it is quite another. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.Is english your third or fourth language perchance?
Because you dont seem to grasp the rather obvious difference between somoene saying someone HAS done something and someone saying someone MIGHT have done something
They HAVE been negligent, they HAVE been irresponsible, they HAVE even if not involved in the actual abduction undeniably caused the abduction but they MIGHT also be involved in her death and faked kidnapping can you spot the difference?
You and nobody can say they DIDNT kill her themselves the same as nobody can say they did, but until there is proof one way or the other either IS a distinct possibility, its called having an open mind, which means being open to ALL “possibilities” rather than a closed one that can only bear the thought of SOME possibilities
So no, IF it turns out they didnt have anything to do with it I wont be eating anything as I have never said they DID do it, only that it doesnt seem impossible that they could have and that when other, what are “odd” aspects of their behaviour are factored in I think its quite likely they DID do it
BUt thats not if you learn english the same as saying I KNOW they did it because except for them and their probably dead daughter nobody else “KNOWS” whether they did or not, the only difference is that some people are deluded and self absorbed enough to think they do “KNOW” whereas more sane people only suspect, believe or think one or the other of the two main possibilities but arent idiotic enough to claim to actually “KNOW”
But obviously if you cant grasp the difference between knowing something and accepting its a possibility then none of this will be within your comprehensive capabilities either lol
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