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  • #286958

    as far as i can see this thread has just turned into a point scoring biatchfest between certain individuals, [-X

    #286959

    Just you wait until the holy and sainted McCanns are charged by the Portuguese police – then the unofficial and self-appointed McCann defence team can eat their words.

    #286960

    Bat

    Well how about this report then? link

    #286961

    I think I used to be a “certain” indivudual but I cant be sure lol :lol:

    On snickers…oops, topic I mean, them coming back to the UK

    I think its a strategic move personally, I reckon initially when the bulk of media and public attention wasnt on them portugal was the comfier place as it meant they could avoid social services and the scorn of other UK parents who are friends or acquiantences, but when the spotlight of suspicion moved and the risk of being charged and jailed in portugal appeared the UK became the comfier place

    I reckon if charges looked likely they would try to hide behind the human rights act to avoid deportation under the claim that in portugal, because of the media attention they wouldnt get a fair trial and their lives might be in danger if jailed in a portuguese prison due to the quite prominent swell of anti Mcann public opinion in the country prior to them going on the lam back to the UK

    I think the whole fiasco so far has been a damage limitation exercise trying to cover all bases and limit the possible fall out from all possible negative outcomes

    #286962

    @bat wrote:

    Well how about this report then? link

    She was asked 22 questions and failed to answer 40 of them. Even a profesional gossip like yourself will be able to smell a rat there somwhere.

    #286963

    @ubermik wrote:

    Anyhoo, back on track heres my theory (Well one of em anyhoo)

    It starts with a couple feeling the mundanity of married life with three kids of an age and age gap that are both tiring and stressful which commonly puts a huge strain on a relationship and sex life worsened by both people also having quite demanding stressful careers

    Both people (IMO) seem quite likely borderline sociopaths, emotionly dissaffected to some degree and who live qute likely far more on logic than emotion

    So they decide to have holiday to try and fix things between them and maybe introduce some romance

    Whilst there they have a guide who shows them the sights, hes friendly, educated, amenable and pays Kate a lot of attention due to her being a bit of a hotty

    Being in a near sexless marriage at current and not feeling overly appreciated it goos up her gusset big time and she starts having a holiday boinkfest with the guide

    We fast forward to the night in question, the Mcanns arrange a meal with friends but without kids, Kate sees this as an ideal time for a quicky or two with the guide so arranges to meet him at the apartment to cut down on the time needed and therefore the suspicion

    The kids will be drugged anyway so theres no need to worry about them so they meet and start the bumping of uglies, during which (and this isnt overly relevant either way) either its discovered maddy is dead from either the drugs or perhaps vomiting whilst drugged and not waking up or coughing it out thus asphixiating, or she wakes up and an accident happens whilst trying to hurriedly rush her back to bed before she realises what she is seeing

    At which point Kate points out the situation, and that IF she were to claim that she came back and found the guide there alone he would have a VERY hard time proving his innocence, or even in the case of her accidentally being injured and killed claiming it was him that did it which people would more readily believe with him being not only not the mother, but also a man he is forced into helping her hide the body to protect both of them

    So its decided the door is left open and he disposes of the body while she goes back to the party (none of which would be hard for a sociopath to see as the best damage limitation and formulate

    The door being left open leaves the chance a burglar might happen along and steal from the unlocked apartment thus leaving some evidence of a third person and shifting any reasonable suspicion from the parents namely Kate, if one doesnt come along randomly searching for holiday makers who leftin a rush leaving the door open she is merely in the same situation anyway so its a win win chance

    Later she comes back to make sure all traces are cleared up and the body is gone and then runs back to alert everyone that maddy is missing

    Just highlighting a few dots here that niggle me about this

    The guide cant account for his activities hence still being a suspect, so could possibly have been meeting Kate for a pre arranged holiday boinkfest as anything as kate also has times she wasnt accounted for either when checking on the kids

    I think most people might have first thought Maddie had let herself out of the apartment and could just have wandered off looking for her mum and dad when she realised they werent there as kids would want them on awaking mostly anyway

    So they seem to have jumped to the conclusion too quickly considering the door was open to begin with which they knew, so I would have expected more time spent searching the complex first to find her before notifying the police, but I dont recall a mention of any search, let alone a long one

    IF on the other hand they could so easily jump to the conclusion she was abducted, I think that would suggest it was a prevalent thought of a possibility and in which case they never would have left the door unlocked as you usually have several keys, and even if there is only one anyone checking on maddy could have taken the key to get in and then brought it back with them rather than leaving the door unlocked

    If it wasnt a prevalent thought, then I think as I said a long search would have ensued on the prevalent thought being she had simply wandered off and would be found shortly with some walking and shouting of her name

    The addition of the guide would lend local knowledge making a fairly local but good hiding place for the body being known fairly straight forward, and if the DNA evidence has any validity whatsoever only kate would have needed to have had the car and could have moved the body with the help of the guide

    1) Things that I think should also have been looked at but which I havent heard mentioned are whether they ALWAYS left the kids alone whilst on holiday and how frequent these meals were

    2) if infrequent or if it was the first, whether one or both of the Mcanns suggested the kidless meal

    3) whether they had used the childminding service previously whilst there

    4) the history of the rented car, whos idea it was to get it, whether kate ever went out alone in it, and as it wasnt one linked to them when first rented who exactly collected it and was there any delay between collection and arriving back at the room as that would be the ideal time for it to have been used as an unrecognised body transporter to a better hiding place

    So there ya go, thats my more preferred theory so far for what its worth

    Is this a message board or a library… :?:

    #286964

    @fastcars wrote:

    @ubermik wrote:

    Anyhoo, back on track heres my theory (Well one of em anyhoo)

    It starts with a couple feeling the mundanity of married life with three kids of an age and age gap that are both tiring and stressful which commonly puts a huge strain on a relationship and sex life worsened by both people also having quite demanding stressful careers

    Both people (IMO) seem quite likely borderline sociopaths, emotionly dissaffected to some degree and who live qute likely far more on logic than emotion

    So they decide to have holiday to try and fix things between them and maybe introduce some romance

    Whilst there they have a guide who shows them the sights, hes friendly, educated, amenable and pays Kate a lot of attention due to her being a bit of a hotty

    Being in a near sexless marriage at current and not feeling overly appreciated it goos up her gusset big time and she starts having a holiday boinkfest with the guide

    We fast forward to the night in question, the Mcanns arrange a meal with friends but without kids, Kate sees this as an ideal time for a quicky or two with the guide so arranges to meet him at the apartment to cut down on the time needed and therefore the suspicion

    The kids will be drugged anyway so theres no need to worry about them so they meet and start the bumping of uglies, during which (and this isnt overly relevant either way) either its discovered maddy is dead from either the drugs or perhaps vomiting whilst drugged and not waking up or coughing it out thus asphixiating, or she wakes up and an accident happens whilst trying to hurriedly rush her back to bed before she realises what she is seeing

    At which point Kate points out the situation, and that IF she were to claim that she came back and found the guide there alone he would have a VERY hard time proving his innocence, or even in the case of her accidentally being injured and killed claiming it was him that did it which people would more readily believe with him being not only not the mother, but also a man he is forced into helping her hide the body to protect both of them

    So its decided the door is left open and he disposes of the body while she goes back to the party (none of which would be hard for a sociopath to see as the best damage limitation and formulate

    The door being left open leaves the chance a burglar might happen along and steal from the unlocked apartment thus leaving some evidence of a third person and shifting any reasonable suspicion from the parents namely Kate, if one doesnt come along randomly searching for holiday makers who leftin a rush leaving the door open she is merely in the same situation anyway so its a win win chance

    Later she comes back to make sure all traces are cleared up and the body is gone and then runs back to alert everyone that maddy is missing

    Just highlighting a few dots here that niggle me about this

    The guide cant account for his activities hence still being a suspect, so could possibly have been meeting Kate for a pre arranged holiday boinkfest as anything as kate also has times she wasnt accounted for either when checking on the kids

    I think most people might have first thought Maddie had let herself out of the apartment and could just have wandered off looking for her mum and dad when she realised they werent there as kids would want them on awaking mostly anyway

    So they seem to have jumped to the conclusion too quickly considering the door was open to begin with which they knew, so I would have expected more time spent searching the complex first to find her before notifying the police, but I dont recall a mention of any search, let alone a long one

    IF on the other hand they could so easily jump to the conclusion she was abducted, I think that would suggest it was a prevalent thought of a possibility and in which case they never would have left the door unlocked as you usually have several keys, and even if there is only one anyone checking on maddy could have taken the key to get in and then brought it back with them rather than leaving the door unlocked

    If it wasnt a prevalent thought, then I think as I said a long search would have ensued on the prevalent thought being she had simply wandered off and would be found shortly with some walking and shouting of her name

    The addition of the guide would lend local knowledge making a fairly local but good hiding place for the body being known fairly straight forward, and if the DNA evidence has any validity whatsoever only kate would have needed to have had the car and could have moved the body with the help of the guide

    1) Things that I think should also have been looked at but which I havent heard mentioned are whether they ALWAYS left the kids alone whilst on holiday and how frequent these meals were

    2) if infrequent or if it was the first, whether one or both of the Mcanns suggested the kidless meal

    3) whether they had used the childminding service previously whilst there

    4) the history of the rented car, whos idea it was to get it, whether kate ever went out alone in it, and as it wasnt one linked to them when first rented who exactly collected it and was there any delay between collection and arriving back at the room as that would be the ideal time for it to have been used as an unrecognised body transporter to a better hiding place

    So there ya go, thats my more preferred theory so far for what its worth

    Is this a message board or a library… :?:

    Literally its a library of messages, so both actually :lol:

    And lets face it, the messages are “checked out” after all innit haha

    #286965

    Has anybody noticed:

    …that every time the McCanns (especially Saint Gerry) are asked any sort of question that might …. just might …. cast any sort of doubt on their (concocted) story – they immediatly dismiss any claim as ”ludicrous”.

    … that every time they are asked for even a simple explanation of ANYTHING … they hide behind the Portuguese secrecy laws.

    They sure don’t come across as a couple with nothing to hide do they?

    #286966

    @forumhostpb wrote:

    Has anybody noticed:

    …that every time the McCanns (especially Saint Gerry) are asked any sort of question that might …. just might …. cast any sort of doubt on their (concocted) story – they immediatly dismiss any claim as ”ludicrous”.

    … that every time they are asked for even a simple explanation of ANYTHING … they hide behind the Portuguese secrecy laws.

    They sure don’t come across as a couple with nothing to hide do they?

    At least they’re abiding by the secrecy Laws.

    These Portugese Secrecy Laws are a bit of a joke aint they? Within 2 mins of Kate McCann’s Diary being read, its private contents are being passed to one of their contacts, and passed into the Public Domain for gossips everywhere to ooo and aaahh over whilst they have there Corn Flakes.

    #286967

    @forumhostpb wrote:

    Just you wait until the holy and sainted McCanns are charged by the Portuguese police – then the unofficial and self-appointed McCann defence team can eat their words.

    Afraid not PB. :roll: In case you werent aware of this fact I’ll let you in on it. Yes amazingly somone in our Judicial System is innocent until proven guilty, even when they’ve charged. Plenty of people that have been charged (which the McCanns havent) and tried, have been found not guilty.
    I know it’s a bummer, and you and your crew of gossips read it as guilty until proven innocent, but it’s the law of the land. :wink:

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