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15 May, 2008 at 2:33 pm #10199
A father-of-two who fraudulently claimed almost £80,000 in benefits for 36 children has been jailed.
Irvin Fraser, 30, claimed child tax credits over three years from two addresses in Aberdeen.
Fraser induced HM Revenue to make payments totalling £79,718. He was jailed for 13 months at Aberdeen Sheriff Court.
Sheriff Alexander Jessop said it was a “whacking” amount to be paid, and expressed surprise it was not detected.
Fraser admitted making fraudulent claims from Tullos Circle and Abbey Road between November 2003, and June 2006.
Fraser explained: “I was claiming child tax credit for my son and just added another name by chance. I wanted to stop but it just snowballed and spiralled out of control
Irvin Fraser
“They never asked for any documents. It went on for two years and I got away with it.
“I couldn’t understand why they did not pick up on it. How could someone claim to have so many children but not be old enough to have them?”
He said: “I wanted to stop but it just snowballed and spiralled out of control. I withdrew my last claim but they still paid £4,000 into the bank account.
“I stupidly spent it, and that’s when I got caught.”
Spending spree
Fraser said he went on spending sprees buying clothes, toys and other products to “spoil his children rotten”.
He said he also spent thousands of pounds on his wedding at Duthie Park’s Winter Gardens in 2005.
Fraser’s lawyer, Shane Campbell, told the court the case may have seen methods of keeping a check and verifying claims of this particular nature being revised.
It’s an extraordinary case, someone should have spotted it
Frank Doran
Aberdeen North MPMr Campbell said: “But that’s how easy it was for him to become involved.”
Aberdeen North Labour MP Frank Doran said serious questions had to asked why such a “Guinness Book of Records” case involving claims of 36 children could be allowed to happen.
He said: “It’s an extraordinary case, someone should have spotted it. There should be alarm bells ringing.”
A HM Revenue and Customs spokesman said it had systems in place for checking on fraud and that the majority of claimants were honest.
He said: “We have taken in various measures to combat organised attacks on the system.
“This is one that slipped through the net, it took us a while but we got him in the end.”
Not guilty pleas from co-accused Annette Fraser, 37, were accepted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/7401317.stm
I’m speechless almost!
15 May, 2008 at 2:44 pm #335972Just heard this on the radio…. It really is mental how it was allowed to happen.
16 May, 2008 at 3:19 pm #335973I used to be a fraud manager for one of the credit card companies and when a new fraud scam was discovered, we at first, kind of admired it – then we set about blocking it from happening again.
Like this scam, there is an element of “well done” to it, but in the next breath it is now a case of lets hope that the relevent cicil servants do something to stop this happening again before everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
17 May, 2008 at 4:21 pm #335974I was one of the minority of people who got married, saved up, bought a house, and then had children when I could afford to pay for them. :x
Yes I know!!!!! :roll: Before I start getting hate mail from one parent families!! :oops: I was a child of a one parent family and I know that there are circumstances which often cannot be avoided
18 May, 2008 at 9:32 pm #335975effin hell, 36 kids… claimin for… come on how effin stupid did it not get flagged up sooner. i mind yrs ago in oor pub, guy i won’t name used to sit in the corner fae openin to shuttin time, and didnt buy a drink, as in came the folks, gettin him to fill in forms for the social screwin the goverment out of many fraud claims, unbelievable and still he sits in the pub advising others…
god im dyin to get back to work actually awaiting my disabilty coming through, but sadly i can’t work with this knee atpresent, and is drivin me insane… ive only claimed for the last 4 yrs, ive always worked, never claim any benifits before now, my mum a penisor now and is gettin effin taxed on her penison she paid into for yrs, and now the goverment take a cut..!! and u get these folks who cream and fraud for many things, when i went up for my medical with the social, i obvisously have to walk with stick, when i come out folks where takin off their neck braces, folks limps disappeared must of been the hand of god eh. effin sickens me… my surgeons has told me i should be registered disabled but have been knocked back 2 times, ive got the house modified for me ie rails etc, towhich we had to pay for everything, which i don’t mind its my problem at the end of the day.. but these sponging gits that proble have never had a JOB, yet they get away with gettin this and that… rite rant over again lol
19 May, 2008 at 5:24 pm #335976isnt it bloody marvelous that this scumbag gets away with a 13 month sentence. if he gets out in 7and a half months, it means he actually earned 10.700. roughly per month of imprisonment. id go to jail gladly if my family got that sort o wages. utterly disgusting. this sort of justice encourages chav scum to do this sort of thing. ill bet his burberry clad offspring and girlfriends are laughing their weed filled skulls off at the rest of us idiots who pay taxes for them to thieve, and on top of that we have to pay again to keep him in prison and his kids etc in benefits while hes there. the lot of em ought to be banned from claiming any benefits for the est of their low lifes. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
19 May, 2008 at 10:34 pm #335977GOOD ON HIM i SAY :) ..HE knew he would be caught and got carried away. When Billions of pounds stop going missng through the economy through rich business,,then i MIGHT stop moaning. this is a drop in the Ocean compared to legalised Fraud.Hilarious really !
the wee man won for a good few months,no one was killed. a mere snippet of pennies compared to the big boys !
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