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    I am Welsh.
    I lived in Wales through much of Maggie’s time in power, I saw the hardship…I also remember the dark times before Maggie came into power.

    Despite that, I cannot celebrate or rejoice the death of another human being.

    She was a mother, a grandmother, a friend and her life was not just those years in power. Anyone who doubts that just has to watch her children and her grandchildren at the service, her daughter biting her lip and holding back tears and her grandson’s shoulders heaving as he composes himself in grief, both with the world watching. I imagine what it would be like if people had protested at the funeral of my mother, how I would feel, and my heart goes out to her family. There are real human beings involved, this is their time to grieve the woman they knew away from politics; let them do it in peace.

    #519126

    Former Sex Pistol John Lydon says those now celebrating Margaret Thatcher’s death are ‘loathsome’.

    He added: ‘I’m not going to dance on her grave.’ I was her enemy in her life but I will not be her enemy in her death.’ Where is the politics in that?

    =D>

    #519127

    that is fair enough Ladies above and i respect your decisions..

    lydon/rotten sold out before “selling out” was even a phrase.

    while respecting your decisions i will go ahead with mine..

    /slainte !

    and Ding fvcking Dong x

    #519128

    It’s not about respecting decisions, it’s about respecting the family.

    Basic human respect.

    #519129

    but i have NO respect for her.. or her family. I cannot pretend i do and make a hypocrite of myself ! I could have shut up and joined in with the apologists, but my basic, human morals would not allow that.

    #519130

    I guess that “no respect” extends to her family too.
    No one was asking you to respect her.

    #519131

    yes.

    #519132

    the son is quite a nasty piece of works, involved n corruption and coups in Africa..

    Paul Gambacinni said he’s worked with Carole, respected her, thought she was tough and would understand and shrug her shoulders at the success of the wicked witch song.

    the family have the same sort of respect which is given to any family in a funeral

    but even her most ardent admirers recognise what a divisive figure she was, as loathed by some as she was admired by others.

    Away from the family funeral, people are bound to make their feelings felt. It’s a very public event for a very public leader.

    But I understand John Lydon – we can’t live in the past. People are taking a lot of frustration out on one individual..there are major problems left to us by her polices, and it’s the living who count now.

    #519133

    more doggerel

    I thought I would dance, I thought I would sing
    I confess to a malevolent uttering
    Or two, or more, well more than four
    But not one tenth as many as I thought would outpour

    Even the day when they marked her departure
    I said little or nothing about Margaret Thatcher
    Spent most of the day in silent distraction
    Wanting to give her scant recognition

    She was a widow, a mum, a gran too
    But a far different person to me and you
    Her loved ones entitled to their private grief
    Her much-vaunted “Freedom!” gives public release

    The right to be, whether for or against her
    “She divided opinion” we’re told, why not let her
    In death, as in life leave a legacy not
    Of just winners and losers, but action and thought?

    You see

    I don’t miss the milk – I was quite a fat lad
    But the loss of a spirit I thought I once shared
    With the land of my birth, the lasting sentiment
    That we were all in it together – back then I thought it was meant

    When she prayed to mend discord it didn’t ring true
    And the dissonance jarred me, through and through
    As she bound my heritage atop the mountain
    On an altar to Mammon, her hand never staying

    Even when voices called with unrecognised facts
    “It need not be this way”, she still swung her axe
    And instead of our matriarch, leading us on
    Became the lost devil-child, killing the one

    The common wealth that had redeemed our smeared past
    Was clawed half away from us tight in her grasp
    And in the twilight, we learned the cost
    Of suspicion and selfishness ruling the roost

    She was not the devil – though I’ve often said it
    She was not the witch – although execrated
    She was the prime mover of the 1980s
    And left a bitterness which many have tasted

    But she’s dead now, and I will continue to blame her
    For the loss of a nation – or just in bleak humour
    But far more important than my memory of that one
    Is: When my time is over, what will I have done?

    #519134

    that is so beautiful, Words *sniff

    such a fitting tribute

    is it any wonder that they made you Poet Laureate?

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