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27 July, 2007 at 2:14 pm #278486
Limey’s are dead scared of the Irish…they always have been and they always will be !
3 August, 2007 at 10:45 am #278487@yukon wrote:
Limey’s are dead scared of the Irish…they always have been and they always will be !
You are quite strage really arent you Yukon
3 August, 2007 at 11:03 am #278488The point most of you all seem to forget is that the IRA killed far more Irish people than British soldiers.
They started off back in 1970 has defend force and by 75 had turn into a crime gang.
There is nothing good to say about the IRA in the last 30 years.
They started off well, but lost it and just turned into a gang of petty criminals with access to the political process.
Most of them never had jobs and took full advantage of the situation for there own personal gain.
But remember they were doing it for a united Ireland………………
3 August, 2007 at 12:54 pm #278489Agree with what DOA said. Whatever cause the original IRA had was lost in the years that followed.
Isnt it amazing to see McGuiness and Paisley working together? Really shows that anythings possible.4 August, 2007 at 12:42 pm #278490As a British person I say the IRA was definitely an evil, murderous terrorist organisation and Yukon man is promoting a sick, twisted lie. Assuming he is American, how would he like it when other westerners claim that Al Qaeda is not a terrorist organisation and that the 9/11 attacks were justified?
It is very easy for people who know nothing of the truth to promote ignorant lies. Bad things happened on both sides during the Northern Ireland troubles but the IRA was definitely a terrorist organisation.
As for being dead scared of the Irish – rubbish – I’m a limey and I’m going to an Irish speaking part of Ireland soon and I’d be prepared to condemn the IRA there.
Nor are we scared of ignorant Americans who don’t know what they are talking about!!!!If you start claiming the IRA were freedom fighters you have to then say that the equally violent loyalist UDA, UVF and UFF were freedom fighters or protectors.
The core of the Northern Ireland troubles was conflict between Northern IRISH people who wanted to remain British and Northern IRISH people who wanted the north to join with the republic – it was a civil war, a bit like if you had 45% of Texans who wanted to become part of Mexico and 55% who wanted to stay part of USA!!!
Finally, Yukon man shows why it’s not such a bad thing that USA will soon only be the world’s second most powerful nation after China. America is becoming like Britain – backward looking and stale, while China looks to the future. My view is that Britain should be reducing its links with the USA, closing the USAF bases here and becoming more interated into the European Union – which is also forward looking.
4 August, 2007 at 1:15 pm #278491Britain and Ireland are both members of the European Union. There are tens of thousands of Irish people living happily in Britain and tens of thousands of British people living happily in the Republic of Ireland. The Northern Ireland troubles are more or less over and hopefully will never flare up again. The IRA claims to have more or less disbanded and the other Irish terror groups seem to be going the same way.
Also a geography lesson. England is not a country, it is a state within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. UK consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Southern Ireland (Eire) is now an independent country that became part of the Anglo-Norman Kingdom in the 12th century and remained as part of UK until 1921.
Northern Ireland is also known as Ulster, although the historic Irish province of Ulster included some areas now in Eire.True, the British did terrible things to the Irish in the past – mainly by neglect – but at that time Americans were mass-murdering native Americans and enslaving Africans so they can hardly talk!
My own ancestry is 25% Irish, 25% Welsh and 50% English – I regard myself as British.
My dream solution for the British / Irish problem is to create a Federal Republic of the British Isles (FRBI) There would be no monarch, but a president, there would be no state religion and the FRBI would consist of the following states of varying sizes- Caledonia, Cymru, Wessex, Mercia, Anglia, Northumbria, Cantabria, Cornwall, Eire and Ulster! The currency would be the Euro.
12 August, 2007 at 5:46 pm #278492Since the year 2000 sweetass? Are you sure babe? :lol: :wink:
13 August, 2007 at 4:16 pm #278493hmmmm……..
You are both wrong.
The Irish Republican Army (IRA) (Irish: Óglaigh na hÉireann), sometimes known later as the Old IRA, was a military organization descended from the Irish Volunteers which was recognised in 1919 by Dáil Éireann as the legitimate army (from the perspective of Irish republicans) of the unilaterally declared Irish Republic, the Irish state proclaimed in the Easter Rising in 1916 and reaffirmed by the Dáil in January 1919. In Irish, it was referred to as Óglaigh na hÉireann.
Though a series of organisations later claimed to be a continuation of the IRA from the 1920s to today, many Irish people disagree with these claims. After the signature of the Anglo-Irish Treaty in 1921, members of the IRA who supported the Treaty formed the nucleus of the National Army founded by IRA leader Michael Collins in 1922. While the anti-Treaty IRA continued to exist after its defeat in the Irish Civil War, by the late 1930s it had lost most of the legitimacy with which most supporters of the Republican side initially regarded it. A small minority of Irish people accepts later claimants to the name as the political heirs of the original Irish Republican Army, though none had their claims accepted by Dáil Éireann.
To distinguish between the army of the Irish Republic, and later claimants to the name, the original army recognised by the Dáil is sometimes called the Old IRA.
Provisional Irish Republican Army (Irish: Óglaigh na hÉireann or An tArm Sealadach Phoblacht na hÉireann) (IRA; also referred to as the PIRA, the Provos, or by some of its supporters as the Army or the ‘RA.) is an Irish Republican, left wing paramilitary organisation that, until the Belfast Agreement, sought to end Northern Ireland’s status within the United Kingdom and bring about a United Ireland by force of arms and political persuasion. Since its emergence in 1969, its stated aim has been the overthrow of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland and their replacement by a sovereign socialist all-island Irish state.
The organisation is classified as an illegal terrorist group in the United Kingdom and as an illegal organisation in the Republic of Ireland. However it is not currently listed as a “Foreign Terrorist Organization” by the United States of America.
13 August, 2007 at 10:07 pm #278494wherever you copied and pasted that from its mostly twaddle
just like you
a whole load of fu”ck all16 August, 2007 at 10:17 pm #278495Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:
Agree with what DOA said. Whatever cause the original IRA had was lost in the years that followed.
Isnt it amazing to see McGuiness and Paisley working together? Really shows that anythings possible.they have 40 million,or was it billion reasons to work together bad,britain gave the money,no wonder they are smiling
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