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12 September, 2010 at 3:22 pm #15106
The way things are unfolding I can now see the possibility of a Labour government again in this country within, say, 2 years, if the ducks line up in a suitable way. Here is the train of events that could lead to it:
1) Growing unrest by public sector workers over cuts – strikes and demonstrations and possibly violence.
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2) David Milliband becomes Labour leader.3) Nick Clegg forced by Lib Dem MPs and activiusts to end coaliition with Conservatives.
4) Conservative minority government forced to call early general election (never mind David Cameron’s fixed 5-year parliament – if the government loses its majority that goes out of the window.
5) Big swing of voters from Lib Dem to Labour in election, resulting in Labour win.
I’m a Lib Dem supporter – always have been – and I support the coalition as being the only dish on the menu at the moment. While there’s a coalition at national level, in many local authorities the Lib Dems and Tories are still deadly enemies. The last thing we need is Labour back in power, but that could happen a lot sooner than one might think.
But who is blame-free over the cuts? Nobody. They’re being made because Labour used us, the taxpayers, as guarantees for bailing out the banks, who continued to pay their top bosses big bonuses. Why should we be made to pay for the bankers’ gambling habits?
Labour robbed the poor to pay the rich. We must never forget that!! Granted, that wasn’t their policy, but they acted stupidly, in haste, in an economic crisis and that was the result.
12 September, 2010 at 5:15 pm #447371Interesting ……. very interesting.
I think they all talk a load of bol lox & none of them stand by their manifesto promises. I will be watching the decimation of the public sector workers with great interest.
Begining to think all their mottos should be fek you Jack I’m alright. Coz lets face it none of them have much of struggle in life do they?
Yeah I know I’m a cynic. :wink:
12 September, 2010 at 7:20 pm #447372Begining to think all their mottos should be fek you Jack I’m alright. Coz lets face it none of them have much of struggle in life do they?
An acquaintance works in the public sector. There’s been a jobs freeze for some time now – when someone leaves the post isn’t filled, so there are fewer people to do the same amount of work.
She used to work full-time and sometimes had to do a bit of unpaid overtime to keep up.
Her hours have been cut to half-time but she still has the same workload, which means that she’s doing a lot of unpaid work – or if you look at it another way the unpaid work effectively means she’s had a big overall pay cut. Now the prospect of redundancy looms.Add to this she was encouraged to take on some extra work as part of the job that was involved with the community. A new boss took over and said that she should do this unpaid an not in working time, although the previous boss had backed the initiative.
This reality of the public sector is people on the front line becoming increasingly over-worked and stressed, while the self-serving top management look after their own intersests – just like the private sector really!
They’re even talking about replacing some paid staff with volunteers. That’s fine in jobs where people would enjoy the work. If they brought in volunteer train drivers people would be queuing up for a turn, as would volunteers to present prime-time TV shows – think of the money that could be saved!!!
I worked in the public sector a long time ago. For a few brief years, public sector workers had things a bit cushy. But that hasn’t been the case for a long time now. About the only remaining ‘cushy’ thing for public sector workers are the pensions, and even they are in doubt now.
12 September, 2010 at 7:34 pm #447373And all this at a time when the less fortunate unemployed now face a mandatory obligation to ” work ” for their benefits… This is the beginning of covert tyranny by these political demons. The state is slowly handing ALL public services over to the cororate slugs, a little research into ” Government ” agencies will uncover information about corporate/Government interaction. We { the nation } borrow money from the banks, the banks collapse and we then borrow more money to bail them out….. Now doesn’t that make sense ? And who pays this ” borrowed ” money back….????????
If you don’t laugh, you’re gonna cry…. :lol:13 September, 2010 at 9:08 am #447374The banks have basically robbed the nation and got away with it. Gordon Brown was basically ‘conned’ , during a moment of blind panic, into paying off the banks with money he hadn’t got and using us taxpayers as the guarantors.
13 September, 2010 at 9:28 am #447375http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11089
Gordon Brown was a fool, is a fool and will always be so….. Half the country’s gold reserve for how much ??????? The guy needs a kick in the sporen !
13 September, 2010 at 12:49 pm #447376@bassingbourne55 wrote:
The banks have basically robbed the nation and got away with it. Gordon Brown was basically ‘conned’ , during a moment of blind panic, into paying off the banks with money he hadn’t got and using us taxpayers as the guarantors.
If the banks hadn’t been propped up then they would have failed leaving millions in dire straits with their savings, investments and mortgages.
A run on the banks would have ensued leaving this country up the creak without a paddle.
Then where would we have been? #-o
Your party have sold their soul to get into bed with the Tories to taste a little bit of power before they head off into the political wilderness for good.
It’s your party that is consenting to these mass spending cuts and throwing millions on the dole. That’s really going to stimulate economic growth isn’t it?
Tuition fees – seems they’ve back tracked on that too.
In fact, they have back tracked on almost everything from their manifesto – sacrified everything for the hope that political reform will give them more political power in the future.
It won’t because they have showed their true colours and are assiting in bringing this country to its knees.
Perhaps if Dave and Nick concentrated in getting the £120 billion pounds of uncollected taxes into the coffers rather than going for the easy target of cutting jobs and causing mass unemployment then there might be some hope.
Still if one thing good comes out of this, it will be the death of the Lib Dems.
13 September, 2010 at 12:52 pm #447377@gazlan wrote:
And all this at a time when the less fortunate unemployed now face a mandatory obligation to ” work ” for their benefits… This is the beginning of covert tyranny by these political demons. The state is slowly handing ALL public services over to the cororate slugs, a little research into ” Government ” agencies will uncover information about corporate/Government interaction. We { the nation } borrow money from the banks, the banks collapse and we then borrow more money to bail them out….. Now doesn’t that make sense ? And who pays this ” borrowed ” money back….????????
If you don’t laugh, you’re gonna cry…. :lol:If you fit enough to work then why shouldn’t you work for your benefits?
Why should someone be able to claim more in benefits than what a worker earns each year?
Housing benefit, council tax benefit, other benefits can total over £20k pa. And for doing what?
13 September, 2010 at 1:48 pm #447378If you fit enough to work then why shouldn’t you work for your benefits?
Work where? Under whom? For whom?Why should someone be able to claim more in benefits than what a worker earns each year?
Why the system is geared that way?Housing benefit, council tax benefit, other benefits can total over £20k pa. And for doing what?
For being out of work?What is the alternative? No benefits = homeless = children will suffer = delinquency = crime = prison = private corporations making Billions = Set quotas = unlawful activity to boost profits!
If the banks hadn’t been propped up then they would have failed leaving millions in dire straits with their savings, investments and mortgages.
A run on the banks would have ensued leaving this country up the creak without a paddle.
A run on the banks ? Can you tell me why the banks created such a mess in the first place ? :?
13 September, 2010 at 4:42 pm #447379Isn’t that a prediction that anybody can make though?
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