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30 June, 2008 at 7:40 pm #351234
Shlt I am singing songs from the wizard of oz now!
30 June, 2008 at 7:47 pm #351235@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything new30 June, 2008 at 8:41 pm #351236@kevin wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything newKnife crime has always been rife in the UK, it’s nothing new, you are right but it is on the increase.
Violent attacks on adults from todays youth is also on the increase.I would part understand if my son was a thug but he is a sweet kid that doesn’t bother anyone, cheeky but no violent in any way.
Why was you stabbed kev?
30 June, 2008 at 8:58 pm #351237@*Sian wrote:
@kevin wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything newKnife crime has always been rife in the UK, it’s nothing new, you are right but it is on the increase.
Violent attacks on adults from todays youth is also on the increase.I would part understand if my son was a thug but he is a sweet kid that doesn’t bother anyone, cheeky but no violent in any way.
Why was you stabbed kev?
long story
i wont bore you with the details
sadly i lived
take knives away something will take its place
not hard to sharpen a stick
a lollipop stick could killin other words its not the weapon its the intent
30 June, 2008 at 9:00 pm #351238@waspish wrote:
someoe commented earlier that a lot of the kids being stabbed are black, and i seemed to me that the hint was made that it was seen as acceptable [by the media] because the kids were black. [forgive me if i read the wrong thing into it] but it also has to be said that almost all young men stabbed, or arrested for stabbing, were black. black on black crime is a real broblem in the london area, as the american gang culture is imported and mimmicked here, there are gangs of crips and bloods in london. directly copied from the usa. these lads are the worst threat to anyone, as they actually believe they are above the law.
That is my argument Wasp- if 16 or 17 white teenagers had been murdered this year in one city, the reaction would have been different. In fact several of those murdered have been innocent bystanders but the one I would vouch we all remember is the lad in the bakery- the white lad
You are right though- most of it is black on black and just as they do not view their lives as worthwhile, neither do the government
Effective deterrnt requires an entire overhaul of the sentencing guidelines though- you can’t say 10 years minimum for carrying a knife when you only get 4 years for manslaughter!
30 June, 2008 at 9:02 pm #351239@kevin wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
@kevin wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything newKnife crime has always been rife in the UK, it’s nothing new, you are right but it is on the increase.
Violent attacks on adults from todays youth is also on the increase.I would part understand if my son was a thug but he is a sweet kid that doesn’t bother anyone, cheeky but no violent in any way.
Why was you stabbed kev?
long story
i wont bore you with the details
sadly i lived
take knives away something will take its place
not hard to sharpen a stick
a lollipop stick could killin other words its not the weapon its the intent
That is what I was saying, it was only a compass that was stuck into my sons leg but it was the intent.
It does scare me, I don’t think I am going to cope very well when he starts going on the town.
As for boring me with the details, I was only wondering if you had done something to upset the person, also was you a child at the time?
30 June, 2008 at 9:03 pm #351240@slayer wrote:
You are right though- most of it is black on black and just as they do not view their lives as worthwhile, neither do the government
Effective deterrnt requires an entire overhaul of the sentencing guidelines though- you can’t say 10 years minimum for carrying a knife when you only get 4 years for manslaughter!
if scum wants to kill scum that is ok with me
when its unprovoked then the punishment should fit the crime30 June, 2008 at 10:38 pm #351241@kevin wrote:
if scum wants to kill scum that is ok with me
It’s pretty obvious to me that it’s not ok with you!
You’re still alive.
1 July, 2008 at 9:10 am #351242well said slayer i totally agree with you. life has a small price now. a teen wil kill another person simply for being on his [percieved ] turf. slashings and stabbings are part of gang initiation, the more damage done the higher up the pecking order the gang banger sits. i watched the dispatches programmes last nght about britain and the street wars and guns and knives etc. it was a disgusting sad show of basically american gangs and their influence on the streets here. the only thing i could think of to help in london, would be to clear out all of the social housing and any affordable housing so these crounging bottom feeders have no access to each other, and no access to easy victims. seperate them and divide hem. no gangs no problems. but it would never happen. it galls me that the vast majority of these kids were black, and they all without exeption said they wil rob and steal and tax ! anyone they saw as a weaker target, they all said it was their right to take from others because no one gave them anything. this as far as im concerned is as a direct result of their derelict parents over indulging them as small children, these kids dont understand it when they reach 16 and the demands for the latest everything are refused because theyre grown up now. then it starts, they dont have it given, so they take it. personally id go with the south african style and shoot them dead there in the street. id have no qualms whatsoever if they approached me. but the sad reality is, the victim is the one person who wont get help nowadays. its sick.
1 July, 2008 at 12:09 pm #351243Kevin got it right in a few words. There is much political blethering about the removal of knives from ‘the street’ and indeed we have seen not only knife amnesty but gun amnesty pass without any sizeable reduction in levels of brutality and slaughter.
What is the point in taking the knife away when the wielder is illiterate with regard to moral decency and respect for human life? Where the intent is born in ignorance and borne in anger the weapon could be fashioned from a plastic spoon or – as Kevin stated – a lollipop stick.
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