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someoe commented earlier that a lot of the kids being stabbed are black, and i seemed to me that the hint was made that it was seen as acceptable [by the media] because the kids were black. [forgive me if i read the wrong thing into it] but it also has to be said that almost all young men stabbed, or arrested for stabbing, were black. black on black crime is a real broblem in the london area, as the american gang culture is imported and mimmicked here, there are gangs of crips and bloods in london. directly copied from the usa. these lads are the worst threat to anyone, as they actually believe they are above the law.
@toybulldog wrote:
Control of the streets was lost a long time ago, and so was any degree of effective policing. The deterrents are quite simply a joke, and made worse by the ridiculous over-riding respect for the rights of criminals, at the expense of any moral social imperative for the larger community involved. Government policies seem almost to guarantee more crime, but these are presented to an electorate that only reflects the minority anyway. Nobody is impressed by the reassuring soundbites coming from whoever is the latest incumbent in the Home Office. Murders will continue to be commited by children.
It can be sorted out, but that would need real political will from the very top of a party looking for election in what would be five or six years from now. But don’t hold your breath. I’d give a lot not to sound so cynical but realise that to gain the power required the party involved has to make so many deals on the way, and then sell its ideas to that minority we call an electorate, that any firm resolve is inevitably watered down in a welter of compromise.
Would ten-year terms of power be the answer ? And would that mobilise the necessary opinion that already exists ?
I agree about the control on the streets having been lost many years ago. How many people live in town where there are no go areas for police? If the police refuse to go into certain areas violent crime amongst teenagers will not be quashed. And if they weren’t carrying knives it would be something else. Gangs of violent youths is not a new thing, but it was kept under control in the past (just). The money is being spent in the wrong areas, or not at all.
I don’t think ten year terms would be the answer, it would just create a lax attitude by the incumbent government, nothing would be achieved until shortly before their term was up as they try to generate votes again. Maybe the answer is to insist that certain things like the health service, education and policing, are all managed by joint political teams to achieve some form of continuity.
I do have a jaundiced view though.
P.S. fancy a banana?@slayer wrote:
^^^^
Good to see intellectual stimluating debate isnt dead then
What interests me (and blows much of the likes of EmmaLush’s arguments out of the water)- 16 out of 17 of these murders are on black kids; IF there had been 17 murders on white kids in London this year, do you think the press coverage would have been different?
It is very very tragic and the government seem stricken with inertia
the yawn was for petes plagarism
he dosent have any opinons of his ownwasnt an opinion ya thick cunt
oh and it’s doesn’t btw
@pete wrote:
oh and it’s doesn’t btw
you should go see the wizard of oz
as both the scarecrow and the lionIt’s on at the cinemas is it ? thick cunt
@pete wrote:
It’s on at the cinemas is it ? thick cunt
you could while away the hours conversing with ……………
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.
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