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Quran (18:65-81) This is the Sura and verses that lays the foundation for honor killings for just the thought that a child would commit disobedience and ingratitude. It goes even further in sitating that you might even be given a better “son” than the one you had before by Allah.
I’ll admit I googled it… but in the book I quoted earlier it quotes these verses as justification.
@kent f OBE wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Terrible story…. not only because of an innocent young girls barbaric murder, but also that the parents are so indoctrinated by religion… the really terrible thing too is that some extreme misguided Muslim parents even in this country will agree the girl deserved it.
Recently I read A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini its heartbreaking what some young women have to endure. Read it if you can…. its so enlightening.
Honour killings have nothing to do with religion
They have everything to do with religion.
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Quran (18:65-81) This is the Sura and verses that lays the foundation for honor killings for just the thought that a child would commit disobedience and ingratitude. It goes even further in sitating that you might even be given a better “son” than the one you had before by Allah.
I’ll admit I googled it… but in the book I quoted earlier it quotes these verses as justification.
Then I stand corrected Mrs T….I don’t know anything about the muslim religion other than what we are told in the media etc but from what I understood about honour killings and they happen in India too, I thought it was a shame thing and not a religious thing
Not all religions are characterised by such brutality.
But then again Islam isn’t necessarily characterised by such brutality, either.
It depends on interpretation.
There are people who interpret pacific religons like Buddhism and love-religions like Christianity in an extermely brutal manner. People interpret non-religous beliefs like parental duty and love of country in a brutal manner.
But not necessarily.
I’ve known very gentle, dignified Muslims, and some pretty sadistic atheists.
So, Kenty, I think you’re only partially corrected. It’s the way people interpret a religion to justify social attitudes.
@kent f OBE wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Quran (18:65-81) This is the Sura and verses that lays the foundation for honor killings for just the thought that a child would commit disobedience and ingratitude. It goes even further in sitating that you might even be given a better “son” than the one you had before by Allah.
I’ll admit I googled it… but in the book I quoted earlier it quotes these verses as justification.
Then I stand corrected Mrs T….I don’t know anything about the muslim religion other than what we are told in the media etc but from what I understood about honour killings and they happen in India too, I thought it was a shame thing and not a religious thing
You are right Kenty…. its shame based on a set of religious values… I was just drawing attention to the justification for the honour killings as set out within the religion…its worth mentioning that not all Muslims interpret the verses as justification.. but obviously some do.
Thanks Scep and Mrs T…yep I get what you are both saying
Let’s be clear here.
This is a cultural issue. There is a religious justification. That does not mean it is religious. All “true” Muslims do not kill their own family members if they transgress.
If you read the Old Testament in the right way, stoning as a punishment for “wayward” women is quite OK. Similarly other extreme punishments are advocated in Israel based on so called Old Testament teaching. Christian teaching is in theory about forgiveness but it has been used to justify war. The IRA and the Protestant Paramilitaries used religion to justify killings, torture and maimings, and their idea of who deserved it included women and youngsters. Religion was also used to justify the Twin Towers atrocity, despite many Muslims being peaceful people who could not justify such actions.
“Honour” killings, and the threat of them, are dishonourable and against all ideas of human dignity and rights. They have no place in a humane society.
Religion is just an excuse. There are lots of other excuses for barbarism. Religion is not to blame – it’s just being taken along for the ride by people who need a justification.
@momentaryloss wrote:
Let’s be clear here.
. . . . . . Religion was also used to justify the Twin Towers atrocity, despite many Muslims being peaceful people who could not justify such actions. . . . .
Not just by Muslims, More than a few Christian preachers said that the attack on the Twin Towers was God’s punishment for New York’s depravity, they might as well have said “The Terrorists are right”
personally I am of the Theory that 9/11 was an inside job. I can appreciate the fact that is a different kettle of Fish.
that is all .
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