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The European Union should aim to keep as close a relationship with Britain as possible after Brexit, German Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel said on Thursday.
The chancellor, Philip Hammond, has been given a boost ahead of his maiden autumn statement by a Guardian analysis showing the economy continues to confound gloomy forecasts for a post-referendum slump.
A bumper month for retail sales, a steady housing market, broad-based business growth and a drop in the jobless rate have all boosted hopes for a strong finish to the year for the UK economy.
Britain’s services sector, which accounts for more than 75% of the country’s GDP, accelerated in November, with the sector’s post-Brexit revival continuing at speed. That’s according to the latest PMI survey from IHS Markit.
Hmmmmmmmmm
welll, those are optimistic headlines form – what date? They seem to come from different dates. The Gabriel quote would be nice, but it’s as vague. i want to keep as close to BB and SHR as possible – which is not very close.
The latest from the pro-Brit Merkel is that Germany is going to ahve to take a very hard line to the UK
May all be froth and hot air, and they’ll come in th end to make things very nice for us, coz theya re really nice people. But don’t bet on it.
If all goes swimmingly, then I am the first to welcome egg on my face. It will be a genuine relief.
I don’t think that we will collapse..I hope not.
But the pound has lost a fifth of its value, and the winter is going to tell us about inflation and what will be happening to the economy a bit more. Not as much as the terms in which we actually leave the EU.
The important think I am thinking about in termsof this trhead is how far the EU will realign British politics. So at the moment I’m keeping my eye out for Sleaford, and then the Supreme Court in the New Year.
very bad news for labour, in fourth place; not good news at all for UKIP, at least, even if it is in second place; their vote is so small; May’s Brexit approach has held the voters in this strong brexit constituence, but her anti-Brexit wing must be a real worry after Witney and Richmond
very bad news for labour, in fourth place
Labour is dead, i’ve been saying this for a few months now.
May’s Brexit approach has held the voters in this strong brexit constituence, but her anti-Brexit wing must be a real worry after Witney and Richmond
Parliment voted to to trigger article 50 by March at the very latest, 461 to 89. I don’t see any reason for the government to be worried, it has legitimacy from both the referendum and parliment now.
Labour is dead, i’ve been saying this for a few months now.
Parliment voted to to trigger article 50 by March at the very latest, 461 to 89. I don’t see any reason for the government to be worried, it has legitimacy from both the referendum and parliment now.
Er, not really.
first, Labour has been pronounced dead so many times even in my life that I stopped counting a long time ago. The result is certainly not good news for Labour..or for the UKIP, despite it coming second. Paul Nutter still has a lot of work to do..
Secondly, it depends on the law. The Supreme Court rules in January. If it says parliament has to decide, they will almost certainly specify primary legislation. That means no matter what the vote, the Government will have to introduce a bill, subject to amendment, and that could take a lot of time.
If it had been a more meaningful resolution the other day, Anna Soubry at least would have voted against, rather than just abstain. It was effectively a rah-rah vote.
If the Supreme Court votes in favour of the Govt, or rules that primary legislation is not needed, then the Government is free to go ahead, no matter who says what.
And vice versa, no matter who says what.
We’re a constitutional democracy; that is, we are not not a democracy which disregards constitutional law, though some would like that.
We’re a constitutional democracy; that is, we are not not a democracy which disregards constitutional law, though some would like that.
Funny that, they didn’t care about our non-existant constitution when we joined the EU/EC.
Sorry, drac, I remember it and you’re wrong. It was entirely constitutional.
We joined the EEC after detailed primary legislation for 1971-72, joining in Jan, 1973. Labour opposed joining, and fought the bill tooth and nail, amendment after detailed amendment. There was no referendum.
We had a referendum in June, 1975, when Labour sought to hide its divisions on EU withdrawal. The left, led by Michael Foot and Tony Benn, fought for EU withdrawal (along with the Tory Right, including Enoch Powell). The lost very heavily (67% for entry) and decisively. As we were already in the EEC, no legislation was needed.
Now we have had a referendum, but no legislation. It was the legislation which made entry legal, and the Supreme Court may well rule that it is legislation which would make withdrawal legal, which would probably mean a delay, maybe a long delay.
They may decide that legislation is not needed, of course.
We all have to wait until early January, including Theresa May, who will obey the Supreme Court whatever it says and whatever her thoughts and wishes.
The constitution states that parliament must always be sovereign. This is clearly isn’t the case with EU membership, and so is unconstitutional.
But let’s not pretend that the constitution is actually ever applied. This isn’t an area I know a lot about, but even I know of a few laws that directly contradict what the constitutional documents say.
The constitution doesn’t say that parliament is sovereign, but that the Crown-in-Parliament is sovereign.
The Constitution doesn’t actually say anything, strictly speaking. We don’t have a written constitution, as the USA has.
We have a mix of custom and changing law. It’s what makes our constitution so hard to understand, even for Brits.
The monarchy was sovereign at one point, parliament (lords and commons) then shared roles, parliament (the commons) is now dominant, but it’s shifting. Parliament shares sovereignty with the Monarch, in practice the Monarch’s government, within the Bill of Rights, Magna Carta and the mix of customs and laws which make up the (ancient, unwritten)
The Supreme Court now decides what that (ancient, unwritten) constitution is, and in one form or another has done since 1876.
Parliament never gave up sovereignty to Brussels. Parliament remains sovereign within the EU. Brussels says that the Eurozone is the common currency of Europe. Parliament said no; so the pound sterling is the UK currency. If the UK withdrew from Europe, and then reapplied, and Brussels said that accepting the Euro was part of the price, then parliament would exercise sovereignty – it could decide to keep the pound and not rejoin Europe; or it could exercise sovereignty by giving up the pound voluntarily in favour of the euro.
However, the Crown-in- Parliament remains sovereign, according to the interpretation of the (ancient, unwritten) constitution, as interpreted by the Supreme Court.
We remain within the EU, but the Supreme Court has to determine how we exercise our sovereignty by withdrawing. It’s the most important case in our history, certainly since the Supreme Court’s predecessor, the law lords, was set up in 1876.
We all await the decision in January, and we’ll all have to obey it, whether we agree with it or not – inlcuing you, including me, including Theresa May.
I know the history of the constitution, I was refering specifically to the 1689 Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta, both of which are completely ignored by a lot of the laws we have.
I strongly disagree with you that parliment didn’t give up sovereignty to the EU, EU law overrides British law wherever there is a conflict as the European Court of Justice is supreme. Or another example is that parliment is forbidden from starting trade talks with a foreign power. How can it be sovereign when an external power can prohibit it from doing things such as trade deals.
It seems pretty obvious to me what the Supreme Court will do, they have a very obvious bias towards remaining in the EU and they will rule anything that interferes with leaving.
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