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drac, 48% voted to Remain.
Last time that I checked, 48% is still less than 52%
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Your math is right. So what? It was actually 36% who voted to leave. But so what? nobody voted for a hard brexit, or a soft brexit – just for a brexit. That’s all I’m talking about – at the moment.
France is the 10th most powerful economy in the world (the UK is at the moment 9th).
Where did you get those numbers from? And didn’t you claim that France had overtaken us with no hope of return a few weeks ago?
You should reread that post. France has overtaken us in terms of an economy measured by the exchange rate. That rate defined the UK as the 5th most powerful economy in the world, and it dropped to 6th, behind France.. but the most important definition is PPP (purchasing power parity) and under that definiton Britain is 9th, and france 10th. That was the discussion which took place.
The point you make about never rejoining the EU is based on speculation about what the EU will look like in 2020. maybe you’re right. maybe not,. Time will tell.
The only point I’m making is about a conditional. If Berexit is a disaster, almost weverybopdy will want back. If it’s not, then there won’t be any problem in keeping out. What’s there to disagree about?
The only point I’m making is about a conditional. If Berexit is a disaster, almost weverybopdy will want back. If it’s not, then there won’t be any problem in keeping out. What’s there to disagree about?
The disagreement is that your point is invalid. The terms of rejoining would not be the same as we have now, sepecifically adopting the Euro (If it still exists by then).
We aren’t gonna leave ffs it’s shit on the people time
We aren’t gonna leave ffs it’s shit on the people time
I think we will leave still, and it’s the EU who is trying to shit on the people. Junker has said that no EU member should have referendums from this point on as the people make bad choices.
The EU is doomed…
The EU is doomed…
It is looking that way, but it’s their own fault.
The only point I’m making is about a conditional. If Berexit is a disaster, almost weverybopdy will want back. If it’s not, then there won’t be any problem in keeping out. What’s there to disagree about?
The disagreement is that your point is invalid. The terms of rejoining would not be the same as we have now, sepecifically adopting the Euro (If it still exists by then).
It could be invalid – we don’t know.
If Brexit is a catastrophe, then we need to rejoin the EU. If the EU doesn’t exist, or its price for rejoining is unacceptable, then we don’t rejoin. No problem, though we will need to work to build a much more democratic and accountable EU rather than the bureaucratic mess that exists at the moment.
We are in the EU now without being in the Eurozone. A number of countries are in the EU without being in the Eurozone. no problem. The problem is in creating a Eurozone which works, and if they do and we don’t want to join it, then no problem.
If Brexit works, then again the Brexiteers have won and nobody will be able to turn them back.
If it doesn’t work, and people are made significantly poorer, what then? That’s definitely not what people voted for – they were told they could leave without cost, they were told that if they left then a pot of money would be coming their way.
People will only rejoin, or refuse to leave, if they want to. Democracy, I thnk is the word. The Remaiers have to accept it; so should the brexiteers if events turn against them.
No problem, though we will need to work to build a much more democratic and accountable EU rather than the bureaucratic mess that exists at the moment.
I don’t see how that is possible when I can’t vote for anyone that has the power to introduce or repeal laws.
We are in the EU now without being in the Eurozone. A number of countries are in the EU without being in the Eurozone. no problem. The problem is in creating a Eurozone which works, and if they do and we don’t want to join it, then no problem.
All new applicants for EU membership are required to also join the Eurozone, it’s been like that for awhile now.
they were told that if they left then a pot of money would be coming their way.
Do you really think that most leave voters were listening to Boris Johnson? I think most of them listened to either Nigel Farrage, Daniel Hannan or the minority of Labour MPs in the Labour Leave campaign.
People will only rejoin, or refuse to leave, if they want to. Democracy, I thnk is the word. The Remaiers have to accept it; so should the brexiteers if events turn against them.
A lot of them don’t seem to have accepted it so far.
Other than an arrogant refusal to accept the will of the majority of the UK electorate, what exactly do the lib dems actually stand for anyway? The man who now leads them was a vocal opponent of same sex marriage and voted against it in parliament on a point of principle due to his religious beliefs, yet in power now pretends otherwise. A political chameleon (like Nick Clegg) who will say and do anything in his/their desperate attempt to make the lib dems relevant again.
The same lib dems, who in coalition kept to none of their main pre election pledges. From no rise in VAT, to no rise in tuition fees. The same lib dems who are directly responsible for Brexit alongside the political class, are now trying to subvert the democratic will of the British people. The lib dems who put the tories in power with 24% of the vote in 2015 because their political prostitution while in power, annihilated the party.
Winning Richmond was a good achievement, but Richmond support Remain and no second runway and the despite the tories, UKIP and the Greens not running, the lib dems still only managed a 1,000 majority. How will that translate in Brexit constituencies, not very well I suspect.
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