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I’ve had to remove some posts from this thread.
Debate is fine, but please keep it respectful.
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I’ve had to remove some posts from this thread. Debate is fine, but please keep it respectful.
I don’t like posts being removed, Martin, though I recognise that it’s your chat site and you have the prerogative.
But some of the comments on this thread did sicken me.
I’m glad you removed them.
I just feel like the situation has been made way too political for any evidence that is shown to the public to be trustworthy. I really don’t view the BBC as a reliable source on domestic issues anymore.
Well, it was a political murder.
But that doesn’t mean the BBC were lying about it.
It hasn’t actually been a political issue. Nobody with any sense has blamed the Brexiteers, or even said that there was a far-Right plot. It was a lone individual.
Given the fact that it was one lone individual murdering a politican during a heated political campaign, I think the comments have been mild. No reason to distrust polic evidence. If the guy were insane, he wouldn’t have been tried. He suffered mental health problems (as do many people), but that wasn’t shuffled under the carpet.
I’m not saying that there are no conspiracies within the Establishment – many things arekept hidden – but not in this case.
Well, it was a political murder. But that doesn’t mean the BBC were lying about it.
They lie about pretty much everything else, why should I believe them on this one issue? They don’t even cover actual far ‘right’ activity. I’ve seen a few recordings of few political groups in America quoting Nazi ideology in the last week or two, media has been silent about it.
They certainly have a slant, and sometimes they lie.
My newspaper has carried an in-depth account of Mair and the far Right in the UK today, and I trust it (insofar as oone can trust anything).
As I said, there’s no need to lie. The white supremacist and neo-nazis are ugly enough in my opinion, and they’re not being accused of hatching a plot to kill an MP.
Who else could have killed her, do you think? Jimmy Savile??
Well, it was a political murder. But that doesn’t mean the BBC were lying about it.
They lie about pretty much everything else, why should I believe them on this one issue? They don’t even cover actual far ‘right’ activity. I’ve seen a few recordings of few political groups in America quoting Nazi ideology in the last week or two, media has been silent about it.
So it’s the responsibility of the BBC to do the reporting on extremism in the US, don’t the yanks have any channels that do news anymore, guess Fox, NBC etc. must have gone bust
So it’s the responsibility of the BBC to do the reporting on extremism in the US, don’t the yanks have any channels that do news anymore, guess Fox, NBC etc. must have gone bust
I’m sure it happens here too, but its hard to find examples of because nobody talks about it. The US news doesn’t report on it either, i’m only aware of it because of independent people on the internet.
What is interesting about the UK since Brexit is the hysterical bombardment by the MSM and the liberal establishment, of a supposed rise in an imaginary extremist far right movement, or extremism in general. No evidence to support that claim of course. Blair was trotted out by the MSM yesterday to suggest Corbyn is far left and so therefor extreme, which is clearly ludicrous when put into context alongside Blair’s claim to be the voice of the “progressive centre” and in context of how far right (of centre) politics in the UK has shifted generally over the last 35 years.
Without covering old ground regarding the brutal death of Cox, nothing about the so called facts surrounding Cox’s death are logical and where once we had a level of decent investigative journalism in the UK, who would once have forensically examined what the establishment allude to that death. Now the MSM just churn out the same old garbage. People rely on their regular sources for the “news” and dismiss any opposing views as extreme and therefore unreliable.
I don’t know of any talk of the rise of neo-nazism or white supremacism in the UK, though I do know that small neo-nazi and racist groups are active. I also know there has been a rise in hate crimes following the brexit referendum – I don’t know whether that is still continuing.
This murder seems an open-and-shut case to me. I don’t see how or, above all, why lies are being spread about it.
Mair was an isolate whose sources of white supremacist and nazi propaganda weren’t home-grown but American. His killing of Jo Cox wasn’t linked to any plot or political movement, despite the existence of some UK right-wing groups with a violent propaganda.
The rest about Corbyn etc is very interesting but not relevant to the thread, which was set up as a tribute to Jop cox after the shock of her murder. Discussion of the killer and killing is relevant.
I’ve not come across anybody else who says this killing was all part of a BBC etc cover-up. Who else is saying it?
What evidence is there for saying it.
It seems bizarre to me.
But I am happy to be enlightened.
There is no evidence of an increace in hate crimes, at most there is a slight increase in reports (that doesn’t mean they actually happened) and new things being classified as hate crimes that prevously weren’t reported as hate crimes. I don’t even think the category of hate crime should exist, it doesn’t serve any purpose.
I’m not claiming that there is a BBC cover up, I just don’t believe a word they say about anything. The evidence against them is their constant and open lies about anything that promotes their political narative. I will give an example, just this week they were still claiming that Keith Lamont Scott was unarmed, there is clear evidence that he was.
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