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oh right…
well, it’s a very old-fashioned way of describing a pullover – lol :)
when I was a boy, so it’s bound to be old-fashoned
Tut I was gonna post a serious response and now it’s all gone humorous… :evil:
@panda12 wrote:
This is Jack, my golly:
I bought him a few years back.
Is he offensive or racist?
i had a golly as a child……….he was my favourite toy for a couple of years……..where i went, golly went……….hes was my best bud
i also had a doll that had dark skin………..she actually had a smell quite like chocolate impregnated in the plastic……..i don’t remember her having her name but as i liked chocolate, she was my ‘chocolate dolly’
in the 1960s these toys were in the shops…….and i was brought up in a non-racist home……..so no i don’t think golly is racist or offensive after all, i’m sure black girls play with white skinned dolls
I remember the Robinson’s golly badges ,,, they were retired in 2002 apparently due to them not being popular any more with families and nothing to do with pc…. :lol:
I also recall there being a mainstream entertainment show in the late 70’s called ‘The Black and white Minstrels’ ….. eeek !
:shock:
@tinks wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
This is Jack, my golly:
I bought him a few years back.
Is he offensive or racist?
i had a golly as a child……….he was my favourite toy for a couple of years……..where i went, golly went……….hes was my best bud
i also had a doll that had dark skin………..she actually had a smell quite like chocolate impregnated in the plastic……..i don’t remember her having her name but as i liked chocolate, she was my ‘chocolate dolly’
in the 1960s these toys were in the shops…….and i was brought up in a non-racist home……..so no i don’t think golly is racist or offensive after all, i’m sure black girls play with white skinned dolls
Well said, tinks.
@pepsi wrote:
I remember the Robinson’s golly badges ,,, they were retired in 2002 apparently due to them not being popular any more with families and nothing to do with pc…. :lol:
I also recall there being a mainstream entertainment show in the late 70’s called ‘The Black and white Minstrels’ ….. eeek !
:shock:
I saw the Black and White Minstrels live in Morecambe in 1964…with Leslie Crowther…
‘When the red, red robin goes bob-bob-bobbin’ along, aloooog”.
should these lyrics have been banned?
@sceptical guy wrote:
@pepsi wrote:
I remember the Robinson’s golly badges ,,, they were retired in 2002 apparently due to them not being popular any more with families and nothing to do with pc…. :lol:
I also recall there being a mainstream entertainment show in the late 70’s called ‘The Black and white Minstrels’ ….. eeek !
:shock:
I saw the Black and White Minstrels live in Morecambe in 1964…with Leslie Crowther…
‘When the red, red robin goes bob-bob-bobbin’ along, aloooog”.
should these lyrics have been banned?
No – the song was written in 1926 so the double entrendes and innuendoes of the 1960s should not be applied retrospectively.
@panda12 wrote:
@sceptical guy wrote:
@pepsi wrote:
I remember the Robinson’s golly badges ,,, they were retired in 2002 apparently due to them not being popular any more with families and nothing to do with pc…. :lol:
I also recall there being a mainstream entertainment show in the late 70’s called ‘The Black and white Minstrels’ ….. eeek !
:shock:
I saw the Black and White Minstrels live in Morecambe in 1964…with Leslie Crowther…
‘When the red, red robin goes bob-bob-bobbin’ along, aloooog”.
should these lyrics have been banned?
No – the song was written in 1926 so the double entrendes and innuendoes of the 1960s should not be applied retrospectively.
should so have been banned…
I really liked the show btw, but that’s only because I was an oick from the sticks who was overwhelmed by seeing tv people in real life.
Do they still play Sing Something Simple on Radio 2? I heard they do. I always associate that with my mam doing the ironing upstairs on a Sunday evening.. She so wanted us to be the tidiest children in school – sad
I don’t think the product (the doll) as such is offensive at all, nor do I think the doll lost it’s job because it was black.
Why is everyone skirting round the issue of the name? It’s the name that IS offensive. The name of the product is gollywog. For some reason Panda doesm’t mention this in her opening post. Why would anyone think Jack Golly is offensive and why would anyone think that the physical appearance of that toy is offensive?
The toy is gollywog and it’s not an appropriate name in this day and age…we have moved on (apparantly). It is obvious that the exact doll cannot be re branded as the original name will always stickI agree.
The gollywog wasn’t offensive as such, but when it was removed from the jam jars because the word was a very common form of abuse.
The doll just got caught up by being associated with a word which was used as a racist insult. Depending on what story you believe, when it was invented it wasn’t called a gollywog. It is understandable, however, as attitudes changed, that Robinsons didn’t want to be associated with a racist insult so dropped the doll.
The word gollywog just doesn’t seem to have the same power as an insult nowadays. Other words are less offensive too, just like the word gay is used by people to describe themselves now, just as rappers call themselves niggas.
As for the doll itself, a few years ago, my then girlfriend, who was black, had a gollwog for years which she had loved. She didn’t think the doll was offensive so why should I?
8)
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