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16 September, 2007 at 11:23 am #287718
Yes !
16 September, 2007 at 3:33 pm #287719If we deny Lesbians IVF just because they are from Lesbia who next? Albanians, Ukranians, Romanians, Klingons?
Its a bit racist really innit :shock:
16 September, 2007 at 3:51 pm #287720Seriously tho, this is a very similar discussion to the abortion one, a select few wanting to dictate what “should” be someones way of life to others via oversimplification and quite deliberate selective viewing of society in general
Religious arguements fall by the wayside as 1) they should and can only apply to someone who has CHOSEN to follow that faith and abide by its directives, nobody else needs to pay any head whatsoever to their overzealous rantings plus it being “against god” would apply to ANY sterile couple or woman the world over, as obviously “god” chose that they SHOULD be sterile and innable to conceive
Socially, being a kebab muncher is a lifestyle choice, as such if having a non majoratively normal lifestyle means you cant have IVF then that would apply to women who choose to have a career or stay single too, leaving procreation till it needs helping along
It also for many relies on the rather simplistic assumption that maternal urges are only the domain of straight women, and that a lesbo shouldnt really have them as theyre not “exactly” a women, and therefore by choosing to be gay shouldnt want kids
But then theres the child isnt there? Whether a child is more balanced and prepared for society by having a parent of both genders is defined by the current political position which in turn controls public opinion
When its convenient then yeah, its agreed that children do seem demographically to flourish better with a stable home and both parents, but when the current topic or climate is focused on women primarily, single parent families or gay rights those same demographic studies get hidden away in a dark corner because they then become inconvenient truths
Such is the way things are when politics is about self interest and when the majority of the electorate are mindless sheep waiting to be told what they should think on a particular topic
I personally dont really buy into the need for so much IVF anyway, after all the world is full of orphans and people aborting foetuses so I thing more inroads should be made into exploring the possibilities there and less effort put into making parenthood the new “McTrend” and children the latest fashion accessory
Someone “wanting” a kid isnt the important fact here IMO, its whether they are wanting it for the right reasons, can create a decent enviroment for the child to grow up happy and balanced and will therefore give it the best start in life whether gay, straight, left wing, right wing or just plain old thick
The sins of the father (parent) tend to be inherited, and lets face it, gay couples arent any less likely to be flawed parents than straight ones, they ARE still people at the end of the day
Screw gay rights, who looks out for childrens rights nowadays?
And has anyone had the balls to do an indepth psychological study appertaining to people becoming parents who are old, gay, disabled or have any other potentially impactive influences on the childs upbringing?
Maybe that should be done so that a knowledgeable decision could be made rather than emotive and politically driven ones as is the case now
16 September, 2007 at 7:53 pm #287721@~Pebbles~ wrote:
Shaz I dont think you can say that lesbians “choose Their lifestyle”, most gay people will tell you that they were born gay, just as you were born straight, and that choice didnt come into it.
So in the case of a lesbian, when those maternal instincts surface, and they want a child, is it really fair that they should be denyed the same rights as a striaght woman who can legally have IVF?
Damn right! If they cannot have kids cos they are rug munchers , too bad, someone has to make a choice, go get jiggy with mr jiggy and have a kid, or dont chew rugs.
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