It,s in our genes?

@jen_jen wrote:

@woohoo wrote:

@pete wrote:

who ate all the pies

Now, what Pete said was directed at the more Obese person,… but yet, if i now say: “Who spewed up all the pies”, now, that would be directed at an anorexic, and in this case, i find that my line was more insulting!.. Funny Ole World!

If you’re gonna throw insults around at least get your facts right – your line would be directed at someone with bulimia, not anorexia….. :wink:

As for
@tictax wrote:

why do some women find it acceptable to be totally nasty to celebs that are thin, chat shows , press etc , u hear it ” she looks ill , she looks painfully thin , boney , to name a few

Iif the media wasn’t so obsessed with appearance and highlighting every time an actress puts on 6 or 7 pounds and horror of horrors goes up to a UK size 10, then these women wouldn’t feel the need to be so skinny in the first place, and yes some do take it to extremes and look ill, gaunt and painfully bony – Victoria Beckham being a case in point. Like many women I’d love to be slimmer but that is definitely not a look I aspire to!

@tictax wrote:

thses ppl wudnt dream of degrading a fat person in this way , they all sympathise,some of these ppl arent goin out of there way to look this way its often disorders etc

Of course they degrade fat people in the same way, both in the media and in real life. If a celeb puts on a few pounds or happens to show some cellulite we suddenly have the zoom lense and the comments of how she’s letting herself go, age is telling, etc etc. If some of these celebs are fat, I want to be celeb-obese!

Skinny people and large people both attract attention, both draw comment, and the comments are equally insulting if you are on the receiving end (as someone who has been both ends of the spectrum, I feel qualified to comment there!). The comments can be even more hurtful if the weight issue is as a result of a disorder or illness. Just as one person may be skinny because of anorexia, bulimia, overactive thyroid, cancer and so on, another person may be larger because of comfort eating, an underactive thyroid, medication and so on. Yet people feel free to pass judgement based on appearances and make comments openly even to complete strangers.

Maybe the question is – why do we feel it’s ok to pass judgement on a person about their weight when we barely know them, yet we would never comment in the same way about, say, their acne?

Who’s throwing insults? I’m not, just stating my opinion.. Quite similar to your opinion when you make your point about those with acne. Women.. Jeez.. Always ready to jump the gun. :roll:

@bat wrote:

too fat to work
:evil: :evil: :evil:

tek the telly off em.
stop their benefits.
give em a pushbike apiece.
mek em walk 5 miles a day , with a salad as reward.
wire their fat faces shut.
END OF PROBLEM.
FAT FUC&ERS. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
genetic my ar$e

@tictax wrote:

my point exactly u name victoria beckham as someone going to extremes to be like media hype wants her to be (look ) . maybe theres media pressures yes , but its the person own mental state what drives her /him to go o t t ,

Agreed – I think that was the point I was trying to make…..

If you take out the fact that I mentioned Victoria Beckham and re-read my post, I think you’ll find we’re broadly in agreement.

@tictax wrote:

and u use victoria (thin ) as an example , and u dnt mention anyone fat ? my point again , ok to slate ppl thin but not fat and btw , victoria looks gr8

So because I didn’t name anyone fat but I named someone thin, that means I was slating thin people? I can reel off names on both side of the coin, painfully skinny celebs, obese celebs, celebs who are quite normal but the media homes in on what it perceives as the slightest imperfection and magnifies it. But what would be the purpose in me naming names? I don’t think it’s ok to slate anyone off for their size, their physical appearance, any media-perceived imperfections like spots, birthmarks, scars and so on.

@forumhostpb wrote:

Is it ‘genetic’ I don’t know for sure, but my instinct is that their respective sizes are due in no small part to their diet.

And therein lies the judgement.

I have two friends at opposite ends of the scale, one is painfully thin because of a metabolic disorder, she eats anything and everything, far more than I could ever eat, then people make the assumptions that because she eats so much and is so thin she must be bulimic. She gives examples like going to a dinner party, really enjoying the food as the hostess was a cordon bleu chef, taking seconds when they were offered, then being puzzled about why the hostess was standing outside the bathroom door every time she came out from the loo, until she realised that the hostess was listening for her being sick.

My other friend could well fit the description you have given, with two kids. People think nothing of openly staring at her, making comments about how obscene it is and she should do something about it, always said deliberately loud enough for her to hear. She has been apporached by a complete stranger, told to get a grip and take a pride in herself and stop being such a drain on society. What none of these people know is that she is fighting a serious medical condition and her size is entirely down to the illness and her medication – she was a size 10 before it all started. She eats a very healthy balanced diet – she has to for her illness – and every comment cuts her to the bone but she thanks her lucky stars each day that she is still alive.

Yes, size (underweight or overweight) can be down to bad diet, poor exercise regime etc., skinny isn’t necessarily healthy either, but there can also be other reasons that are not obvious.

So back to the question…..why do we think it’s ok to pass judgement on a person about their weight when we barely know them? And why do some people think that they can abuse a person for their appearance?

@jen_jen wrote:

@forumhostpb wrote:

Is it ‘genetic’ I don’t know for sure, but my instinct is that their respective sizes are due in no small part to their diet.

And therein lies the judgement.

I have two friends at opposite ends of the scale, one is painfully thin because of a metabolic disorder, she eats anything and everything, far more than I could ever eat, then people make the assumptions that because she eats so much and is so thin she must be bulimic. She gives examples like going to a dinner party, really enjoying the food as the hostess was a cordon bleu chef, taking seconds when they were offered, then being puzzled about why the hostess was standing outside the bathroom door every time she came out from the loo, until she realised that the hostess was listening for her being sick.

My other friend could well fit the description you have given, with two kids. People think nothing of openly staring at her, making comments about how obscene it is and she should do something about it, always said deliberately loud enough for her to hear. She has been apporached by a complete stranger, told to get a grip and take a pride in herself and stop being such a drain on society. What none of these people know is that she is fighting a serious medical condition and her size is entirely down to the illness and her medication – she was a size 10 before it all started. She eats a very healthy balanced diet – she has to for her illness – and every comment cuts her to the bone but she thanks her lucky stars each day that she is still alive.

Yes, size (underweight or overweight) can be down to bad diet, poor exercise regime etc., skinny isn’t necessarily healthy either, but there can also be other reasons that are not obvious.

So back to the question…..why do we think it’s ok to pass judgement on a person about their weight when we barely know them? And why do some people think that they can abuse a person for their appearance?

Because that’s just the way it is.. Everyday people are going to be critiscised, not only for their weight, or appearance, but how they live, how they speak, how they walk..