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As bad as it maybe rockets landing all over jewish OCCUPIED land the might of the israily armed forces assaults the gazza strip, typical over kill. Im not going to go into the rights and wrongs of it but i think this is a last stand by israel, we are less than a month away from an american president who wont need to cow tow to jewish voters (he has the black vote) and i think israel are genuinly worried he may stand up and tell them where to get off. Personely, if obama does not at the very least instigates sanctions at the security council, then i think he will have failed his presidency at the starting blocks.
Oh dear oh dear. He hasn’t even been sworn in as ‘Pres’ yet and already markers for his failure are being set up.
Of course it’s a well known fact (isn’t it???) that George Bush is single handedly responsible for all the ills that have befallen the world over the last few years. Looks as though his successor will have the same burden to bear.
BTW – if Hamas and their ideological supporters (Iran etc etc) really want to have peace in Gaza (which they don’t) all they need to do is to stop shooting thousands of rockets and mortar bombs into Israel. This won’t happen because they then wouldn’t have a way to provoke Israeli retaliation – and that would never do would it?
Who mentioned bush? bush and previous u.s. presidents have refused to take serious action against israel in case they lose the serious amount of votes from the jewish population of america. Obama him self is the one who has stated he will strive to resolve the palastine/israel issue. Perhaps i should have titled the post ” Do you think this is a last gasp by israel before they know they will no longer get away with it “.
On the flip side of the coin, back when the i.r.a. were bombing and shooting away back in the 70/80s we should have sent in vulcan bombers and flatend armagh and any village/town across the irish border suspected of hideing provos. Would we have got away with it? no, because of the large irish voting population in the u.s.,one can only imagine what pressure politacly,economacly would have been applied on the gov by the u.s.“BTW – if Hamas and their ideological supporters (Iran etc etc) really want to have peace in Gaza (which they don’t) all they need to do is to stop shooting thousands of rockets and mortar bombs into Israel.”
I agree,but then there are the same fanatics in israel who would like to see gaza totaly surpresed. It also becomes very hard to beleive israel when they occupy land for security reasons when the land they take is fertile farm land, land with resources i.e water it does come across as expansionism under the veil of state security.
I can see your point about fanatics – sadly they will always be with us.
However, the inescapable fact is that Hamas (and its factional allies) have long been pereparing for this fight. They don’t manufacture the BM-21 GRAD missile nor do they manufacture the QUASSAM missile – both of which they are currently shooting into Israel.
They are said to have stockpiled around 4,000 of these missiles and receive daily shipments from Lebanon, Syria and Iran. Their policy of firing them from heavily populated ‘civilian’ areas is designed to capitalise in the Media on the injuries caused to these ‘civilians’ by the inevitable Israeli retaliation.
The moment that the hand wringing pacifists of the United Nations start complaining about ”proportionality of response” is the moment that you can be sure they have lost the argument.
The people of Gaza elected Hamas to power in what was generally considered to be a free and fair election. Hamas is a radical islamic jihadist organisation whose forces have fired missiles at a neighbour who happens to have a very powerful and efficient military. I think the deaths of innocent people on either side is tragic but Israel didn’t start this. Even Fatah, the (now) moderate Palestinian party that runs the west bank, is partly blaming Hamas for what’s happening.
What flavours public opinion here is that the actual battles in these skirmishes involving Israel usually seem one-sided because of the unequal casualty levels. But although the Hamas rockets, like the Hezbollah ones, don’t usually kill many people because of their inaccuracy, they could hit a school, a train or a synagogue and cause hundreds of casualties. Israel’s response isn’t so much disproportionate as more devastatingly effective.
In the wider Israel / Palestinian conflict, neither side is the good guy, it’s a matter of which is the least bad guy.
wouldnt a well placed nuclear missile turning the desert to glass “cure” the Middle East problem ? It’s never going to end
I’ve said before, the UN should get the Chinese army to send in a huge peace enforcement army. Nobody would argue with the Chinese military.
@pete wrote:
wouldnt a well placed nuclear missile turning the desert to glass “cure” the Middle East problem ? It’s never going to end
pete I fear that you are right. Much as we,d all love to beleive in fairy tales, and happy endings, I don,t think that out in the middle east that is gonna happen in our lifetime. The fighting just goes on and on. Do they even know what they are fighting about any more? I do wonder sometimes.
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
The people of Gaza elected Hamas to power in what was generally considered to be a free and fair election.
Yes Hamas activists were elected, but am I not right that Fatah politicians actually hold the balance of ‘legal’ power? Hamas control the so called police and thus exert actual control over Gaza, out of all proportion to their ‘elected’ power.
As I understand it, Fatah doesn’t particularly like Israel but is prepared to co-exist with them, whereas Hamas (and by inference Hisbollah) want to see all Israelis exterminated and the entire country obliterated.
Yup …. sounds like a great recipe for peace to me huh?
When Iran’s president was making those threats to wipe Israel from the map, did he stop and think that would mean curtains for Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon too, not to mention the possibility of an Israeli a nuke landing on Tehran?
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