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27 December, 2009 at 7:27 pm #14198
The Iranian revloution of 1979 showed the world the frightening power of religious fervour when whipped up by power-hungry men as a force against an unpopular ‘enemy’.
While Al Qaeda and Taliban adhere to the strict Wahabbi sect of the sunni branch of islam and see the Iranian shias as infidels, it’s still thought that what happened in Iran inspired the sunni extremists.
All through its rise in shia Iran and later through the sunni extremist jihadist groups, radical islam has only received setbacks at the hands of its enemies – like the fall of the Taliban after the coalition invasion and the establishment of the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Even in muslim countries, the setbacks for the extremists havse still been from their enemies – like in Pakistan, from Musharraf’s military government and its democratic successor.
But now, with the growing opposition in Iran, it looks like islamic fundamentalism might be falling apart from within. If the Iranian fundamentalist regime is toppled, it will demonstrate to muslims that the extremists are no longer on a roll and there IS an alternative.
If Ahmadinejad falls, what will progressive Saudis start thinking about their totalitarian regime – the only absolute monarchy left in the world? Will they come out of the closet?
28 December, 2009 at 6:06 pm #426904Can fundamentalism be truly defined ? :roll:
30 December, 2009 at 6:35 am #426905Ahmadinejad is not really in charge of Iran though, that power lies with the religious Ummah in the City of Qom, you might have noticed that all the furore over the Iranian presidential elections was settled in Ahmadinejad’s favour by these people. They are also the ones who vet the lists of presidential candidates so only people they approve of get elected.
So is fundamentalism ending in Iran? No, not yet, but sooner or later yes, probably later though perhaps in another 20 years or so depending on whether Israel or the USA nuke them back to the stone age if they produce and use a nuclear weapon.
30 December, 2009 at 7:15 pm #426906In the greater scheme of things, i dont think it matters to much in terms of Islamic `fundamentalism`…. it is right to say that it is the supreme leader who pulls the strings politically, globally, we have witnessed the incessant activities of Islamic militants, would you call these militants `fundamentalists`?….whether Iran becomes non-`fundamentalist` or not, the Islamic struggle will continue regardless..
30 December, 2009 at 7:54 pm #426907As will the christian struggle no doubt
30 December, 2009 at 8:46 pm #426908I agree, with the weight of that cross they all bare
1 January, 2010 at 3:08 pm #426909`?….whether Iran becomes non-`fundamentalist` or not, the Islamic struggle will continue regardless..
…people said that about communism, how it would be unstoppable and irreversible ….. but it wasn’t. Same goes for islamic fundamentalism – when young people lose interest in it and it becomes an old mans’ cause, like in Iran, it will run out of puff. But that moment is probably a couple of decades and many atrocities away, sadly.
Causes go through a cycle: To begin with they attract angry young men as footsoldiers, then the angry young men become middle-aged leaders, then tired old men. It’s when the cause loses the ability to suck in sufficient numbers of replacement angry young men that it’s doomed. In Iran, the tired old men are the puppetmasters, whereas Al Qaeda / Taliban still seem to be attracting angry young men like the recent ‘Underpants Bomber’ and it’s leadership, from the little we hear, doesn’t appear stale and tired yet, just pure evil.
1 January, 2010 at 5:26 pm #426910Causes go through a cycle: To begin with they attract angry young men as footsoldiers, then the angry young men become middle-aged leaders, then tired old men. It’s when the cause loses the ability to suck in sufficient numbers of replacement angry young men that it’s doomed. In Iran, the tired old men are the puppetmasters, whereas Al Qaeda / Taliban still seem to be attracting angry young men like the recent ‘Underpants Bomber’ and it’s leadership, from the little we hear, doesn’t appear stale and tired yet, just pure evil.
Seems you have answered your own question ….. :roll:
In the greater scheme of things, i dont think it matters to much in terms of Islamic `fundamentalism`….
And the beat goes on
28 May, 2010 at 6:02 am #426911I wonder just how long it will be before we see an attack on Iran, watch out for a false flag operation by the mossad and blamed on the Iranians, this will be a sign… The americans already have covert operations in the middle east now…. When the world is on fire, who will put it out ?
1 June, 2010 at 1:10 pm #426912See what they do….those zionist devils :twisted:
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