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10 February, 2007 at 4:41 pm #258909
Wasn’t there a case a little while ago, where a man spent 3 years inside, always protesting his innocence and the case was turned around ,,,,,,,,,,,, the woman had been found to be lying.
Worse still, was that apparantly, she’d done this on 3 other previous ocassions. The man who spent the time in prison is now back at home with his family, short of moving away, he’s decided to stay where he is, he’s done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, good for him. ,,,,,,,,,, In the meantime, the perpetrator, has had her name changed and lives in a different part of the country,,,,,,,,,I spose we’ll hear from her again the next time she cries rape!!!
10 February, 2007 at 8:24 pm #258910Exactly. In my opinion, pretending you’ve been raped makes you just as sick as a real rapist.
They should both be hanged.
10 February, 2007 at 10:47 pm #258911Now just hang on a minute Thomas!!! (Hang on …. geddit ???)
You can’t hang a bloke just because he was falsely accused of rape. After all if he was getting hanged whether he did it or not, then there would be no incentive NOT to rape.
Before you know it you’d have rapists hanging around every street corner just waiting to do their beastly thing. Mothers wouldn’t be safe in supermarkets; female vicars would be raped across their altars; prostitutes wouldn’t be paid for their services …. society as we know it would break down.
The only safe way is to hang all women who aren’t proven virgins in case they make an allegation of rape against an innocent man. THAT will sort the problem once and for all.
12 February, 2007 at 3:16 am #258912You’re wrong.
Why is it wrong to hang a man accused of rape? I think it’s fair.
If a man is accused of rape, hang him.
If it turns out that the woman was lying – Hang her! Then the man gets justice.
Can’t get much fairer than that, surely? :?
OR……………………….
Make females wear compulsory chastity belts that only become unlocked when she gets married, when the priest hands the husband the key after they’ve kissed. That’d work!
That idea is copyrighted, by the way. So if you steal it, I’m going to sneak into your house, have sex with your skull, then smash it in with a brick until your legs stop twitching – OK ???
13 February, 2007 at 5:56 pm #258913@smiley wrote:
You’re wrong.
Why is it wrong to hang a man accused of rape? I think it’s fair.
If a man is accused of rape, hang him.
If it turns out that the woman was lying – Hang her! Then the man gets justice.
Can’t get much fairer than that, surely? :?
LMAO
I feel sorry for the poor bloke tho that would of been hanged with your justice system, what sort of justice is it for him when he is dead? What sort of justice is it for his family?
I agree that both parties names should be witheld in such a case until its proven without doubt that the accused did in fact rape their victim!
I also feel that if a man goes to the police and says he has been raped, he should be treat in the same way as if it was a women went in to say she had been raped.
Its a very grey area in my opinion, I mean if you slept with someone and you were both consenting adults and u got stuck in there and after a few thrusts they decided they changed their minds (prob cuz you were crap lol), so you stopped then they decided to file a rape claim as they were actually screwed up sick ppl how would that stand?
As mentioned in a post above if the evidence was there then fair enough, but by an examination of this person it would actually show you had sex so it cant just be decided on evidence – if you said no before having any sexual activity and it was forced then fair enough thats rape as you have not consented at all, but if you consent then half way through decide you have changed your mind that cant be rape can it?
I think its different when its someone who has been viciously attacked in the street or from a pub and forced to have sex, than someone simply drunk who may consent then change their mind, or simply forget they consented in the 1st place as they were that drunk – surely someone who gets so drunk to not remember whether they did, didnt or whatever shouldnt be dealt with in the same way!!!
17 February, 2007 at 8:37 am #258914I feel sorry for the poor bloke tho that would of been hanged with your justice system, what sort of justice is it for him when he is dead? What sort of justice is it for his family?
Who cares? A cup of horlicks and all is forgotten.
Anyway, who cares about one family, when thousands of people across the country get top notch entertainment? Every Britisher likes to see some scumbag kicking like a kipper.
If it turns out he’s innocent, just plant evidence that he knew how to speak French (a sign that he is planning on nail bombing a school). Bloody French.
19 February, 2007 at 5:02 am #258915Some of my views on this have been posted already and some havent. initially the crime of rape has been elevated to a pedastal within society because accept it or not after the advent of post modern feminism and its evolution from direct action to strategic positioning and political manipulation we have as a society become apologetic to women in general and a very pro feminist regime not in the sense of the ideals that founded feminism, but in respect to its altered, hijacked more extreme version
As mentioned by someone earlier, the “accused” as that IS what they are should in a fair society be given the exact and equal amount of anonymity as the accuser. Anything less is inequal, unfair and unjust, a point lobbyists, feminists and fem panderers conveniently choose to overlook
We live in a world that arrogantly deludes itself is in enlightened times, but with blinkers and subtle influences of double standards dating back to before the dark ages. Times have changed, the genders have changed, society has changed but or misconceptions of what “men” and “women” are although superficially have moved on, under the surface remain closed minded and blinkered by past miconceptions that mankind hasnt seemed to grow out of
The cry of the apologist is “dont highlight or draw attention to the false acusers, treat them as “ill” and dont punish them because it makes the plight of real victims harder”
Well I’m sorry, I dont believe that at all. No other crime on the law books gets such preferential treatment. No other crime seeks to have abusers of the legal system covered up to avoid putting off genuine accusers
So why this one?
Well my personal opinion is that its to maintain the myth that its a rare occurence, thats not to say its a majorative one either tho. Merely that it happens in sufficient frequency to not be continued to be seen as a trivial rareity
Along with the equal anonimoty I think we should as someone has said have equal sentencing and naming and shaming, so that a false accuser faces the same level of public scrutiny as she was prepared to inflict on her “victim”, because thats exactly what falsely accused men are, but that word is rarely used as its reserved it seems for the poor woman even after her false accusation is found out
Another dismissive rhetorical used on this subject is “but why would a sane woman do that” (implying as is often the case that the sugar and spice female gender is ONLY capable of vindictive, planned, abhorrent nastiness when she is ill in one way or another,,,,,a MASSIVE misconception
Reasons women have done this range from trying to avoid being caught committing infidelity, feeling “used” when their partner didnt then want a relationship and wanting revenge, revenge for someone ending a relationship, getting a partner removed from a shared dwelling to make a break up go smoother and even sinking as low as leverage where a dispute isnt going their way
This is set to get even worse is the proposed change to the rape law is introduced, because in that a woman who has drunk any alcohol will be legally classed as being unable to give consent to sexual congress even if sober as a judge, and any man who has sex with her WILL be committing rape even if he has drunk more than her and is paraletic
Where is the equality in that? Surely that SHOULD be a smight on the concept of feminism as it paints women in a rather poor light and incapable of drinking at all without losing their entire ability to be an adult. But it suits many wings of modern feminists just perfect as they dont want equality, they want favouritism and the demonisation of men. Not just “bad” men, but all men collectively
If a womans ability to enter into consentual sex is so impaired after drinking then we ought to be banning the poor little dears from doing so for their own protection rather than protecting them whilst doing so shouldnt we?
But in the sane world women arent that pathetic, its just that certain groups of society want us to picture them as such because it suits their own extreme and rather idiotic agendas
19 February, 2007 at 6:01 am #258916The bottom line is a lot of men think with their d i c k s..women don’t! It just depends if each party have been brought up to respect human beings. It is as simple as that. I would elaborate but I’m rather drunk right now.
19 February, 2007 at 9:32 am #258917Hmmm, a very pre programmed soundbite that, I can tell you there are as many women who act like the men you would class as thinking “with their dicks” as men, maybe more. Except most women either hide behind the excuse of drink which men only do if the bird is an ugly munterish troll or they claim it was “love at first sight” or some other emotional self delusionary lie
Baiscally both genders from time to time and in varying frequencies between individuals get an itch, some act on it, some dont
Apart from that tho they do pretty much the same thing except you never hear men crying rape after they’ve gone out and got their itch scratched
20 February, 2007 at 6:56 am #258918” I can tell you there are as many women who act like the men you would class as thinking “with their dicks” as men, maybe more”.
I disagree as most men get aroused much more quickly and easily than most women due to testosterone levels. However, I do agree with a lot of what you have said.
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