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Cholera vaccines are vaccines that are effective at preventing cholera. For the first six months after vaccination they provide about 85 percent protection, which decreases to 50 percent or 62 percent during the first year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera_vaccine
If you look at cholera vaccines effectiveness rates ageist our covid 19 vaccines, there about the same. Cholera vaccines have and still are saving millions of lives each year.
Then I would say that the Cholera vaccine doesn’t work very well. Vaccines are something that it is important to get right, especially when you are trying to use them as a justification for something like lifting the lockdowns.
Would you get onboard a plane that lands without crashing 85% of the time?
You can contract covid despite being vaccinated. The risk of being seriously ill with it is much less.
If this is true then the vaccines don’t work.
Not sure why this is so hard for some people to understand.
It IS true.
They DO work.
They significantly reduce your chances of getting covid and reduce the risk of serious illness if you do catch it.
Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Would you get onboard a plane that lands without crashing 85% of the time?
That isn’t to say that you shouldn’t get the vaccination, but consider the earlier discussion about care home workings being required to have vaccinations.
Why is
85%65% an acceptable level of risk here when it’s not for other things that safeguard human life.-
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draculina. Reason: Realisticly the lower number should be used as the care worker would work there for longer than 6 months
It IS true. They DO work. They significantly reduce your chances of getting covid and reduce the risk of serious illness if you do catch it. Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Please read the earlier discussion about the definition of what a vaccine is.
It must provide immunity to a virus.
If it doesn’t reliably do this then it fails at being a vaccine.
Wearing a mask (arguably) reduces your chances of getting covid, it isn’t a vaccine.
I saw a cholera out break many years ago while working for the UNHCR. Its a nasty way to die. Vaccination cut deaths from around 500 per week down to 30 within our camp. Giving someone an 85% chance of living is better than no chance at all.
And planes aren’t that safe. While the big jumbo jets have a good safety record, light aircraft and private planes don’t.
Accident rates in general aviation have stayed stubbornly unchanged over the past decade, Weener told Live Science. The fatality rate hovers just over 1 death per every 100,000 hours, according to a 2010 NTSB report. And while accidents and fatalities are down in corporate and business jet flights, the accident rate in personal flights has increased by 20 percent in the past decade, and the fatality rate for personal flights is up 25 percent.
https://www.livescience.com/49701-private-planes-safety.html
Well skid stain … 85% at best means there a 15% chance you get covid 19. Now in a rest home with 60 people there a good chance one of them will get a mid case. SoooooOOOooooo has I said in last 4 posts….. if covid 19 denyer works in a rest home they are more at risk catching it from the old dears than passing it on to them !!! For the simple reason the granny’s are fully vaccinated and covid denying cockwombles aren’t. And you can use the same argument for public transport, supermarkets and bingo halls !!!!
I am still laughing at your claim to have worked for the UNHCR, it reminds me of the Patschat days when you owned a yacht and lived in a 3 million townhouse in Brighton while running a global plumbing business.
Other than that you are a total dumbarse.
I think all the adults will recognize that to protect granny in her care home all care workers should be vaccinated.
Which of course you would be aware of had you worked for the UNHCR overseas because certain jabs would have been mandatory.
So you contradict your own argument, even though both are inaccurate anyway.
Dumbarse.
LOL!
Wearing a mask (arguably) reduces your chances of getting covid, it isn’t a vaccine.
The main purpose of wearing a mask alongside hand washing etc is to slow the spread of Covid and not to stop infection. Just as the lockdown was intended.
No vaccine provides 100% protection.
Herd immunity provides the best long-term protection in populations and can not be achieved unless enough people take the vaccine.
You don’t understand the issues involved, nor the science.
Drac….i doubt my hospitals are superior to yours
You have given the understanding that you have spoken to numerous doctors regarding your condition and vaccination situation…I would say if thats the case you are a very lucky lady …..i cant even get a phone appointment with my GP let alone speak to a specialist
Why dont you speak to one of these doctors and ask the procedure for a specific vaccination to be administered …you are assuming you wont be given an option….you are assuming the nurse will be blah blah blah……
I dont want this thread to be a “pick on Drac” thread…..but are you seriously so spineless when it comes to your own health? My god woman….fight for what is your right for a vaccination to suit you….you have the right the same as anyone else
Draculina has already stated her GP advised her not to get the vaccine. Draculina stated she agreed with him or her anyway but not for his or her reasons. So what on earth is she blathering on about now when she waffles on about issues that don’t affect her in the slightest.
All vulnerable patients in the UK were identified and prescreened and those that may have slipped through the net still have the opportunity to discuss any potential issues at the actual vaccine hub because they ask you if you agree to the jab and if you are on any blood thinners etc and a duty doctor is on hand for the nurses to approach if and when required. Had Draculina had the jab she would already know this.
I do own a boat and did live in a townhouse in Hove. It was you going on about house prices got me thinking about sell it and I downsize about 2 years ago. Now I live on the beach at Shoreham and own mooring for me boat :)
Want to see a vid of me new boat?
Ty Ge
About 10 years ago..mite have been 12… when did the banks crash
A business development manager was brought in. He’s moved company into other areas like sea defences and refurbishment. We still do our core of short call plumbing, insurant work , new kitchens, bathrooms and drains. As you know I’m not in the best of health these days and only do a few days per week. These days I leave it to trained management instead of trying to do it all myself. I still miss the old days of working out the back of a van. It seem more personal and enjoyable.
My time with the UNHCR was about 5 years. Like most young people I wanted adventure and not spending my time fitting taps for puffs in Brighton. The working and living conditions while with the UNHCR put a real strain on my body and maybe the reason for my first heart attack at 44. My second one was caused by those tvvats at Thames water.
Yes I had all the vaccines including cholera that made me ill for few days. Yellow fever was bad too.
My opinion on forced vaccine unchanged. Once we start forcing people to vaccinate resentment starts to build and over time less people get vaccinated. They find ways to avoid vaccination as we saw lately with fake covid 19 vaccine cards being sold on ebay. Increasing risk for all concern.
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