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  • #1139699

    Ge

    Most if not all people over 50 have received a full vaccination. One asymptomatic granny would easily past on the infection to an unvaccinated care worker.

    No, they haven’t, in fact, 20%-40% in some groups have refused it, although there is no precise data saying why. For example medical reasons, or religion, or Covid denial, etc.

    Herd immunity can only be achieved if enough people take the vaccine.

    I suspect in a poll 99.9% of people would not want an unvaccinated Covid denier going anywhere near great aunt Agnis in her care home.

     

    Why do you assume I should get vaccinated to protect you because you have refused to have the vaccine for no good reason?

    Self-entitled snowflakes who think the world owes them a living.

     

    #1139700

    Ge

    One asymptomatic granny would easily past on the infection to an unvaccinated care worker.

    “Findings: Vaccine coverage was 89% on 5/2/2021. Significantly lower coverage was associated with prior infection (aOR 0.59 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.54-0.64), female (aOR 0.72, 95% CI 0.63-0.82), aged under 35 years, being from minority ethnic groups (especially Black, aOR 0.26, 95% CI 0.21-0.32), porters/security guards (aOR 0.61, 95% CI 0.42-0.90),or midwife (aOR 0.74, 95% CI 0.57-0.97), and living in more deprived neighbourhoods (IMD 1 (most) vs. 5 (least) (aOR 0.75, 95% CI 0.65-0.87). A single dose of BNT162b2 vaccine demonstrated vaccine effectiveness of 72% (95% CI 58-86) 21 days after first dose and 86% (95% CI 76-97) seven days after two doses in the antibody negative cohort.

    Conclusion: Our study demonstrates that the BNT162b2 vaccine effectively prevents both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection in working-age adults; this cohort was vaccinated when the dominant variant in circulation was B1.1.7 and demonstrates effectiveness against this variant.”

    In other words, get a vaccine you lazy bastard, protect others, and stop expecting others to carry you because you assume your “free will” is more important than theirs.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3790399

     

    B-) :yes:   B-)   :yes:   :good:

     

    #1139701

    Oh Ge, I’m dead disappoint in you !!

    The Australians found out with myxomatosis and rabbits that virus’s have a nasty habit of proving scientists wrong. Its why there still millions of bunny’s in oz   B-)

    Saying covid 19 vaccines prevents both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection is wrong. You can still get covid 19 after being vaccinate but it wont put you in hospital and the risk of death is low.

    And why those aren’t vaccinated are at real risk from the rest of us.

    #1139702

    However, my opinion is that people in the UK who refuse the vaccine for reasons other than medical reasons should be not entitled to the same rights as everyone else.

    :wacko:

    #1139703

    Why do you think an unvaccinated care worker, looking after your elderly mother isolated in a carehome, is not the main danger?

    I’m told that all elderly people (with some exceptions) are vaccinated.

    So if the vaccines work, this wouldn’t be an issue because the elderly mother would not be able to contract covid.

    Are you doubting the effectiveness of the vaccines?

    #1139704

    Ge

    Why do you think an unvaccinated care worker, looking after your elderly mother isolated in a carehome, is not the main danger?

    I’m told that all elderly people (with some exceptions) are vaccinated.

    So if the vaccines work, this wouldn’t be an issue because the elderly mother would not be able to contract covid.

    Are you doubting the effectiveness of the vaccines?

    Wait hold on, didn’t you say you wouldn’t type to me again?

     

    I don’t care what you claim to have been told Mr plagiarizer, what does “with some exceptions” mean? Produce some evidence or run along. Secondly, all 3 vaccines are not as effective the older a person is. Thirdly, this is the numpty who claims people with autoimmune disorders don’t have an immune system. LOL!

     

     

    #1139705

    Ge

    Oh Ge, I’m dead disappoint in you !!

    The Australians found out with myxomatosis and rabbits that virus’s have a nasty habit of proving scientists wrong. Its why there still millions of bunny’s in oz B-)

    Saying covid 19 vaccines prevents both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection is wrong. You can still get covid 19 after being vaccinate but it wont put you in hospital and the risk of death is low.

    And why those aren’t vaccinated are at real risk from the rest of us.

    Are you a bit stupid DOA, I said no such thing, I quoted SCIENTISTS who said it.

    If you have any evidence to prove otherwise, then post it, you ignorant pigheaded peasant.

    :wacko:

     

    #1139706

    “Findings: Vaccine coverage was 89% on 5/2/2021. Significantly lower coverage was associated with prior infection (aOR 0.59 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.54-0.64), female (aOR 0.72, 95% CI 0.63-0.82), aged under 35 years, being from minority ethnic groups (especially Black, aOR 0.26, 95% CI 0.21-0.32), porters/security guards (aOR 0.61, 95% CI 0.42-0.90),or midwife (aOR 0.74, 95% CI 0.57-0.97), and living in more deprived neighbourhoods (IMD 1 (most) vs. 5 (least) (aOR 0.75, 95% CI 0.65-0.87). A single dose of BNT162b2 vaccine demonstrated vaccine effectiveness of 72% (95% CI 58-86) 21 days after first dose and 86% (95% CI 76-97) seven days after two doses in the antibody negative cohort.

    Conclusion: Our study demonstrates that the BNT162b2 vaccine effectively prevents both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection in working-age adults; this cohort was vaccinated when the dominant variant in circulation was B1.1.7 and demonstrates effectiveness against this variant.”

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3790399

    B-) :yes: B-) :yes: :good:

    Right there no it all  B-)

    I took my information from this  :yes:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/985296/PHE_12015_COVID-19_vaccination_and_blood_clotting_leaflet_v2.pdf

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    #1139707

    Thirdly, this is the numpty who claims people with autoimmune disorders don’t have an immune system. LOL!

    That’s generally the point of taking immunosupressant drugs, yes.

    You work out which part of the immune system is malfunctioning and you shut it down so it can’t damage anything.

    That may or may not effect if vaccines work, or are safe depending on which drug is used.

    Not hard to understand really. :unsure:

    #1139708

    Ge

    So… now it has now gone from the blanket statement “no immune system”, to “shutting the immune system down via medication” which is a completely different argument and irrelevant. The immune system isn’t completely shut down as standard you numpty it is “weakened” and or “suppressed” and which isn’t the same thing.

     

    There are 100+ autoimmune disorders. 1000s of different treatments.

     

    You also stated doctors do NOT recommend the Covid vaccine for people with autoimmune disorders because the vaccine would not work.

     

    In fact, they do recommend it for people with autoimmune disorders because contracting Covid is much more likely to either hospitalize them and or kill them compared to Covid vaccine inoculation.

     

    You are so full of shit it must be chugging out your ears.

     

    LOL!

     

     

     

     

     

    LOL!

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