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I don’t understand the biochemistry involved in the antibody/antigen binding reaction to comment on this
No, you don’t, do you?
If it doesn’t then there’s no way Pfizer or Moderna’s vaccines will work at all.
They do work so what’s your point exactly?
This is impossible to say, Pfizer and Moderna understandably keep their mRNA technology secret, and for some reason nobody is independently researching this.
How do you know no one is independently studying this?
As far as I know this isn’t known
So because you don’t know it isn’t known although it is known?
You don’t even understand mRNA doesn’t continue to live in your body. RNA messages quickly disappear once the message has been received by the body and an immune response has been built, the immune cells then break them down quickly
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Then the link is wrong, no doctor would reccomend this.
Current medical advice is that doctors ARE recommending it so what exactly is it that makes you qualified to disagree with that recommendation?
Not sure if i should interject some what might bite me in the ass.
What bothers me most if you really sit down..take notes..even Doctors disagree among each other on the effectiveness of the vaccines. Even scientist. That what so crazy. No one on same page really but one thing “take vaccine.”
Said this before as told by Doctors..to be more effective they need to be taken 4 weeks apart not 12. Now learning may be only 6 months effective and why coming up with booster. Who the hell knows. It crazy though
I did say this once before. I had to take Hep b shot for work. I took it then.. one month later another. Then I had to wait 6 months to take last series. I was told if not follow those time frames..I had to do series all over again.. ?
What about that tetanus shot. Need every 5 years they say. Any of us follow that rule of thumb.
And my doctor has me every 10 years retake those baby shots I had taken when first born. Said they not stay in body and immunity due to new things environment no longer make those truly effective after long time in body. No diseases around really.
Hey did you hear eventually children will no longer be born with wisdom teeth. Cave time era used those teeth..not anymore.
And my daughter had a very very mild case of chicken pox at 3. Recently blood work showed nothing for strain in her body. ? Not sure what to do about that. If ever has children may be issue.
Oh well so is life
Ge, it’s clear at this point that you are not acting in good faith, this is the last post from you that I will respond to.
You don’t even understand mRNA doesn’t continue to live in your body. RNA messages quickly disappear once the message has been received by the body and an immune response has been built, the immune cells then break them down quickly etc
How exactly do you propose that the mRNA knows that the immune response is complete, and by what mechanism does it self destruct?
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
mRNA can’t do anything by itself, after entering a cell it may ecounter a ribosome, which will translate the molecular instructions in the mRNA to build a protien. It will then release the mRNA back into the cell.
The mRNA will eventually wear down and break into peices, we know this must be true because mRNA produced within your body does not infitely accumulate. It’s not well understood exactly what factors contribute to the break down, or how long it takes.
Current medical advice is that doctors ARE recommending it so what exactly is it that makes you qualified to disagree with that recommendation?
I’ve lived with a severe autoimmune disease for the best part of a decade, and have educated myself on the function of the immune system to make properly informed decisions about my treatment.
Also all of the doctors that I have had contact have strongly recommended that I do not take the vaccine. So no, not all doctors are recommending this.
The mRNA will eventually wear down and break into peices, we know this must be true because mRNA produced within your body does not infitely accumulate. It’s not well understood exactly what factors contribute to the break down, or how long it takes.
Its worth noting that the property of mRNA to resist degradation is called stability, and it has been proven that mRNA of different species have different levels of stability, that have been observed as being anywhere from only a few minuites to several weeks.
From this we should assume that synthetic mRNA designed in a lab could be made to have any stability we want (if we understood what causes stability, which we don’t). So we could make it last minuites or maybe even several years.
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It’s possible that Pfizer has discovered how to manipulate the stability of mRNA, but if they have then they haven’t published any academic documentation of it and are keeping it for themselves.Seems pointless to speculate on this as we have no idea what happens inside of their labs.
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draculina.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
I clearly do, as I plagiarised it from world-class research and it was written by a professor as it happens. Not some JC gobshite.
Also all of the doctors that I have had contact have strongly recommended that I do not take the vaccine. So no, not all doctors are recommending this.
You stated no doctors recommend it. Then you googled it.
In fact, they do recommend it because the risks involved are much more severe, if someone with the condition you claim you have, is exposed to Covid. The risks are far fewer if they take the vaccine.
Medical fact darling not online fact.
feeling the lurve guys
I think Ge’s right
Health experts widely believe the benefits of being vaccinated outweigh the risks, since people with chronic conditions typically have a higher risk of a severe form of the disease.
Patients with autoimmune and inflammatory rheumatic diseases face a higher risk of hospitalization from COVID-19.
Every person will react differently to the vaccines.
“What’s important to keep in mind is that all diseases of the immune system were not created equally. Some may impact the development of vaccine-mediated immunity, and some stand to benefit a great deal from the vaccine,” Ahmadi said.
You stated no doctors recommend it. Then you googled it. In fact, they do recommend it because the risks involved are much more severe, if someone with the condition you claim you have, is exposed to Covid. The risks are far fewer if they take the vaccine. Medical fact darling not online fact.
What is this lunacy?
I haven’t googled anything.
I gave you a real example of actual on the ground doctors advising a real patient.
I know this happened because I was the patient.
Is anyone even reading my posts?
quote quote=1139663]I think Ge’s right
Health experts widely believe the benefits of being vaccinated outweigh the risks, since people with chronic conditions typically have a higher risk of a severe form of the disease. Patients with autoimmune and inflammatory rheumatic diseases face a higher risk of hospitalization from COVID-19. Every person will react differently to the vaccines. “What’s important to keep in mind is that all diseases of the immune system were not created equally. Some may impact the development of vaccine-mediated immunity, and some stand to benefit a great deal from the vaccine,” Ahmadi said. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-expect-from-a-covid-19-vaccine-if-you-have-a-chronic-condition[/quote]
No, he isn’t.
If you don’t have a functional immune system then a vaccine cammot work, they aren’t magical enchantments.
I explained how they work, please read.
If you don’t have a functional immune system then a vaccine cammot work, they aren’t magical enchantments.
Yes, thats how you spell that word.
The stupidity is starting to affect me.
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