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and there was me thinking a creep was someone who made the flesh crawl.
Ya live and ya learn.
Scep.. At the risk of turning this into another “God” thread, the “mark” is absolute truth, perfection. We all fall short of that. If there is a God, who are we to judge? If there isn’t, who are we to judge? Who decides what’s right or wrong? The couple I am talking about have been married over twenty years, she is cheating with one man, a man she “uses” for sex. Why, when she loves her husband is what she is doing any more wrong than using a vibrator? And just to make my position clear, I am just offering a different view to the norm.
Nemesis, I don’t see that as the mark. Nobody can reach that impossible mark, and not just when it comes to adultery. That makes the mark senseless – worse than useless. You just do what you want and assume that if you’re going to get punished for it the so is everybody else and you’ll be punished anyway. So i don’t think your criterion is one whihc makes any real sense. I’m saying this in all seriousness because I think you’ve thought about it a lot, and that you’ve had the courage to approach it by the light of your own reasoning and experience. I’m disputing your point because I’m trying to sharpen my own moral beliefs, and in the hope that any discussion we have may sharpen yours too. I don’t see your friend as sinning. I think she’s making a moral choice, believe it or not, and not telling her husband is part of that moral choice.
she isn’t sinning as ” sin ” is created by religion, what part of that can’t you grasp?
well, I’ll go to the back of my Aunty Minnie’s house.
this guy’s grasp of an argument is astounding.
I thought I was discussing with nemesis who, like me, believes that there is sin because we’re both religious.
And the creep comes in to inform us that if you’re not religious, there is no sin.
well praise be.
*genuflects to the creep xxxxx
I use the term religious in the way nemesis does…as pointing to a criterion of sin whihc lies outside my personal judgement. both of us may be wrong, but if we are then the consequence is that anybody is right – whether it be the creep, you, me or Hitler to use three extremely different characters as an example.
It’s all over the place though isn’t it. ‘Marriage’ certainly predates Christianity and therefore it is totally irrelevant to apply christian values, sin, to ‘marriage’.
People might have affairs in long term relationships for a myriad of reasons, marriage is nothing special and as an institution is arguably a complete failure anyway. It reminds me of the John Major regime, squeaky clean, moralizing to everyone else while he was ‘at it’ himself and that’s the problem.
Plus, you still haven’t explained in any detail why you consider adultery to be a sin anyway.
I shall respond later, my battery is dying…
Quick answer, I call myself a Christian because I believe in God, and I believe Christ died for my sins.
There is way more to it than that but need to charge up x
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well, I’ll go to the back of my Aunty Minnie’s house. this guy’s grasp of an argument is astounding. I thought I was discussing with nemesis who, like me, believes that there is sin because we’re both religious. And the creep comes in to inform us that if you’re not religious, there is no sin. well praise be. *genuflects to the creep xxxxx
and I’m not religious so don’t foist your sin nonsense on me .. why you keep referring to people as creeps when you are making sexual advances to mentally ill women that you perceive as vulnerable I’ve no idea. You’re a predator my friend, there can be no other reason you would do it which is a ” sin” so hopefully you are suitably ashamed.
I cant be bothered listing anything for you. Your not interesting in learning anything from me, Your only interest is trumpeting your own beliefs and showing off your “superior intelligence”. If you want to learn what the bible is about,read it.
You are very insulting, to woman especially. Do you have a problem with woman?
I am not a member of Mensa, no. However, it only takes one read, of one of your posts to suss you out. Your a drama queen, narcissistic, and a bit of a bully.Your not the best looking of fellas if that’s your pic. What I would say to you is,get yourself a personality. That will help you with relationships.That is good advice by the way. Don’t bother typing to me again, i just cant be bothered with snotty schoolboys.
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I cant be bothered listing anything for you. Your not interesting in learning anything from me, Your only interest is trumpeting your own beliefs and showing off your “superior intelligence”. If you want to learn what the bible is about,read it. You are very insulting, to woman especially. Do you have a problem with woman?
No just very low IQ people like you telling me to ” be a good little boy and read the bible” . You’re clearly not the brightest of people , the problem with dim individuals is they can’t appreciate any view outside their blinkered one dimensional outlook on life due to a lack of intelligence. What they normally do is fall back on claims of sexism/ misogyny and then the mother of all insults ” you are not the best looking ” coming from someone that looks like a special needs eskimo. The irony and hypocrisy not lost
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I’m still waiting for the list of laws descended and taken from the bible btw – back up your claims Jamie or don’t make them admitting you are out of your depth taking rubbish again. 👍
I have to admit the special needs eskimo did make me laugh. Nothing is lost on me at all. I just refuse to play your games. You really don’t need a list from someone with special needs. You don’t want to read the bible don’t.
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