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13 December, 2010 at 6:34 pm #456679
@jen_jen wrote:
Gaz, wake up – there has never been such a thing as freedom, it never existed, if you think it did, please present evidence to support your argument. If you truly believe that freedom ever existed then you are even more deluded than you seem to think we are.
It’s a thing commonly known as conscience, a mindset that can be the freedom and is the freedom for every single one of us . . Very few acknowledge it, even fewer act upon it.
You are correct when you say there is no such thing as freedom, this being taken from us the very instant we are born in this country, as i have very well shown here !13 December, 2010 at 6:34 pm #456680Natural sovereignty was a theological argument put forward by Franciscan monks in the 13th century, it didn’t stand up then and it doesn’t stand up now.
No man has ever been free; we are a tribal/pack species and every man has always been answerable to his tribe, its leader and tribe rules even before written law. Anyone who broke free from the tribe would be pursued and attacked by other tribes; loners were simply not tolerated, This idea of freedom is a myth.
Please feel free to present evidence otherwise.
13 December, 2010 at 6:36 pm #456681@jen_jen wrote:
Natural sovereignty was a theological argument put forward by Franciscan monks in the 13th century, it didn’t stand up then and it doesn’t stand up now.
No man has ever been free; we are a tribal/pack species and every man has always been answerable to his tribe, its leader and tribe rules even before written law. Anyone who broke free from the tribe would be pursued and attacked by other tribes; loners were simply not tolerated, This idea of freedom is a myth.
Please feel free to present evidence otherwise.
Ver well said . . . For a barrrrrrr Lamb. :lol:
13 December, 2010 at 6:37 pm #456682@gazlan wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
Natural sovereignty was a theological argument put forward by Franciscan monks in the 13th century, it didn’t stand up then and it doesn’t stand up now.
No man has ever been free; we are a tribal/pack species and every man has always been answerable to his tribe, its leader and tribe rules even before written law. Anyone who broke free from the tribe would be pursued and attacked by other tribes; loners were simply not tolerated, This idea of freedom is a myth.
Please feel free to present evidence otherwise.
Ver well said . . . For a barrrrrrr Lamb. :lol:
Still no relevance I see…..
13 December, 2010 at 6:40 pm #456683@gazlan wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
Give it up girls, his best form of defense is attack… he has no answers and he knows it.
If he was making his own way in the world and paying his way his opinions might have some credence, but whilst ever he is living off the state, he has no credibility at all.
Sorry Gaz, I dont mean to be hurtful but its the truth
Teapot
Still no relevance i see . . !
Well maybe its me gaz, all I see is a man who is fed and clothed by society.That same man moans and groans constantly about how rubbish this country is and how we are all stupid for conforming, how we have no freedom and you laugh at us for working and paying our taxes, Well I happen to think its relevant to point out your reliance on us all contributing to your income and yes you should be thankful we don’t have a choice!
Teapot
13 December, 2010 at 6:41 pm #456684@jen_jen wrote:
Ver well said . . . For a barrrrrrr Lamb. :lol:
Still no relevance I see…..[/quote]
I have given you every relevance, you choose to side step it. I have shownhere that there is NO CHOICE to live in this country in opposition to the non-sense you prescribe to, you have failed to show any evidence that this is possible, which i believe to be the point and crux of this debate. Now when you choose to confront and explain your words in a lehitamate fashion, then i will study it! :roll:
13 December, 2010 at 6:44 pm #456685Sub-Scribe . . . Subsribe to . . . Le-gitimate . . . Legitimate :shock: :wink:
13 December, 2010 at 6:45 pm #456686It’s been an awfully long day ! :( :wink:
13 December, 2010 at 6:48 pm #456687You have not given any relevance, you’ve given half-baked personal opinions. You talk of things being taken away from you but you can’t give an acceptable definition of these things and can’t give any evidence that they ever existed in the first place. When you show any evidence that they did exist beyond your own opinions, which I believe to be the point and crux of this debate, then I will study it and respond accordingly. :roll:
13 December, 2010 at 6:50 pm #456688@jen_jen wrote:
You have not given any relevance, you’ve given half-baked personal opinions. You talk of things being taken away from you but you can’t give an acceptable definition of these things and can’t give any evidence that they ever existed in the first place. When you show any evidence that they did exist beyond your own opinions, which I believe to be the point and crux of this debate, then I will study it and respond accordingly. :roll:
:wink: Beautifully said
Teapot
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