Heaven Can Wait

@cath 55 wrote:

I’ve been mulling this one over for a while now because I wanted to think about it properly and not just ‘jump in’

yes I do believe there is another ‘plain’ we go to after we die, I choose to go along with the name ‘heaven’ I also like to think, just as in the film ‘ghost’ there are dark beings ready to drag the bad folk away.

however, I kinda think we have ‘heaven and hell’ here on earth too,take most of us in England for instance, we have quite a reasonable quality of life, health services , able to bring our children up in relative safety etc to my mind we do have a heaven

in the so called underdeveloped countries mothers watch their children and neighbouring children die every day,children scavenge for food,water could be miles away or unfit to drink, disease is rife…..does that mean they have a hell whilst we have a near heaven? it does to me….

Yes to heaven and hell on earth…

but it’s not necessarily tied to material conditons.

You can live in a propserous suburb and still live in Hell…I beleive parts of Reading fit the bill?? ‘Fall, friendly bombs on Slough’ (Betjeman); Thoreau talked of the quiet desperation of living in a wealthy home, in ‘Walden’.

The disgrace of the poverty that Cath talks about needs to be urgenly addressed, though. Not because of getting to heaven, but because overcoming that poverty allows the simple chance we call life

A vision of heaven is most convincingly shown by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, in a scene I remember from my teens…in two parts, but quite funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8mmxqIUNzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smlqmXYqeA8

enjoy

Hey I just believe that we should all be a bit nicer to each other.

Don’t mind what religion you are. All the major religions kinda tell you to be good and honorable to your fellow humans, not to fight and kill unless absolutely necessary, and to love your neighbours.

Gotta be good, eh?

Imagine loving instead of hating. Imagine care instead of rejection. Imagine trade instead of war.

Simple.

@momentaryloss wrote:

Hey I just believe that we should all be a bit nicer to each other.

Don’t mind what religion you are. All the major religions kinda tell you to be good and honorable to your fellow humans, not to fight and kill unless absolutely necessary, and to love your neighbours.

Gotta be good, eh?

Imagine loving instead of hating. Imagine care instead of rejection. Imagine trade instead of war.

Simple.

That of course is the simple view.

In truth I subscribe to the four books of the gospel, i.e. none of that Revelation, hell and damnation stuff made up later. And none of the “eye for an eye” justice stuff – that was what Christianity was supposed to be about getting away from. Gentleness not violence.

No revenge. No hate. No pretension and hypocrisy. No being all “godly” and looking down your nose at anyone. If you cannot love your neighbour who you can see, how can you love God who you cannot see? That goes for the people who are different to you as well.

There are violent and hateful versions of all religions and people who use them as an excuse to kill. All these people are wrong from the Christian Crusades to the modern American ones, from the Islamist terrorists of current times to Yugoslavian ethnic cleansing, from Hindu/Muslim atrocities at Indian independence to Japanese attempts to dominate the Pacific in the 1930s and 1940s. All these religions have peaceful and joyful applications which reject mindless violence.

So does it really matter which religion you espouse, even if it is no religion, as long as you can respect others in life and honour their memory in death?

Finally, is there an afterlife?

Well what difference does it make? You best do your best in this life cos there’s nothing either way if you don’t. You can honour the memory of your passed friends and family whether or not they can actually see you. My father is still in my heart, and whether he is also on a cloud as well, he is still with me.

It’s alright. It’s all good.

There’s no day like today.

Corny I know, but the older I get the more I believe it.

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@(f)politics? wrote:

great post momentary

Why thank you kind lady.

:D

Just think we should try to be nicer to each other. Can’t hurt.

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