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29 August, 2012 at 9:57 am #507281
Yes I believe in Heaven………it helps me to know the ppl I love and have lost are safe with God in heaven………..I know a couple that lost their 17 year old Daughter suddenly and when arranging her funeral they decided on a full mass in church, his wife said to him “but you don’t believe in god do you?” to which he replied ” I didn’t, but I have to now, I have to believe ♥ she ♥ is going to heaven”…………..I think it helps some people cope with their loss and on the other hand some people turn against their beliefs when a tragedy strikes.
Our loss is Heaven’s gain ♥29 August, 2012 at 11:15 am #507282@jen_jen wrote:
Thought I would share this.
A customer came into the shop with her granddaughter who was around 8 or 9 years old and the only way I can describe this little girl is that whilst she looked like any other little girl her age, it was if she had a light inside her that glowed softly. We chatted and the granddaughter asked if she could have an angel card reading. I told her that I was sorry but she was too young and she said “I don’t see why, the angels talk to me all the time about what it will be like when I go home…it won’t be long now either.”Then off she went to look at the fairies and dragons, leaving me and the grandmother together. I looked at her, questioningly but not wanting to pry, and the grandmother smiled and said “She’s very special isn’t she? She was an early talker and when she was coming up to her 4th birthday she told her mother “the angels say I have to make the most of everything because I will be going home sooner than others.” When we told her that she was home she said “not THIS home silly, the other home, the one where we lived before we were babies.” When she was 7 she fell ill – she has a very rare form of cancer, untreatable. The doctors say she could live another 10 years but she says she’s going home soon and we mustn’t be upset because the angels have told her it will be a very happy time for her.”
I just didn’t know what to say…we should have been sad for her, maybe a little tearful, but her faith, her conviction, was so absolute and her joy in life now and the prospect of “going home” was contagious and you just couldn’t feel sad for her, just for the life that could have been. Just before they left I commented that it must be reassuring to the whole family to have such a strong faith and the gran looked at me in surprise and said “oh but we don’t, none of us are religious or believe in God or angels…well, we didn’t believe in angels until this one came along and told us.”
Oh gosh lump n throat time again :?
29 August, 2012 at 12:19 pm #507283maybe teapot………..but having witnessed a complete stranger being able to talk to someone very close to me about his deceased father and recently deceased mother and giving extremely clear, acurate information that only us two would have known in the hall ………i do now believe there is more after death
………..and it’s good
29 August, 2012 at 1:30 pm #507284@tinks wrote:
maybe teapot………..but having witnessed a complete stranger being able to talk to someone very close to me about his deceased father and recently deceased mother and giving extremely clear, acurate information that only us two would have known in the hall ………i do now believe there is more after death
………..and it’s good
I don’t disbelieve tinks….and I was truly moved by jens story that’s why I said lump in throat.
I wish I had an unshakable belief like my sister though… makes dealing with life’s traumas easier.
I too have stories like yours tinks… I smell a friends perfume regularly… she died of leukemia… sometimes I just know she comes to visit….. could of course be my imagination… who knows… nice thought though :D
30 August, 2012 at 8:09 am #507285@mrs_teapot wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
Thought I would share this.
A customer came into the shop with her granddaughter who was around 8 or 9 years old and the only way I can describe this little girl is that whilst she looked like any other little girl her age, it was if she had a light inside her that glowed softly. We chatted and the granddaughter asked if she could have an angel card reading. I told her that I was sorry but she was too young and she said “I don’t see why, the angels talk to me all the time about what it will be like when I go home…it won’t be long now either.”Then off she went to look at the fairies and dragons, leaving me and the grandmother together. I looked at her, questioningly but not wanting to pry, and the grandmother smiled and said “She’s very special isn’t she? She was an early talker and when she was coming up to her 4th birthday she told her mother “the angels say I have to make the most of everything because I will be going home sooner than others.” When we told her that she was home she said “not THIS home silly, the other home, the one where we lived before we were babies.” When she was 7 she fell ill – she has a very rare form of cancer, untreatable. The doctors say she could live another 10 years but she says she’s going home soon and we mustn’t be upset because the angels have told her it will be a very happy time for her.”
I just didn’t know what to say…we should have been sad for her, maybe a little tearful, but her faith, her conviction, was so absolute and her joy in life now and the prospect of “going home” was contagious and you just couldn’t feel sad for her, just for the life that could have been. Just before they left I commented that it must be reassuring to the whole family to have such a strong faith and the gran looked at me in surprise and said “oh but we don’t, none of us are religious or believe in God or angels…well, we didn’t believe in angels until this one came along and told us.”
Oh gosh lump n throat time again :?
Likes this…shows that the tough ‘ard fronts which are so much the mark of Mr and Mrs Cool now are not the only way of relating to the world.
How realistic is it? How do I know?? Easily dismissed as phantasm, wish-fulfilment, childhhood naivety. Could be all those. Could be more. Mr and Mrs Cool actually don’t know either.
Maybe we have to accept – mystery? Maybe the disenchanted world e live in is closing itself off from mystery in a way whihc will at some point seem both stupid and crippling?
Jen made a point earlier that it’s quite exciting not to know.
30 August, 2012 at 10:00 am #507286I’ve followed this thread for obvious reasons, I’ve been around people who are terminally ill, never been told by family and doctor and they know ? They have a confidence and Serenity that they are going somewhere where they are going to be ok, all the doubt seems to leave them. Its such a strange time, and I suppose we won’t know till we get there but if there is a there I wonder what each of us hopes would be there, what would it look like who will be there,
What would you find in your heaven, mine would look like loch Lamond on a spring day, sunny but not to I warm and no ,midgies, music in the background, lots of friends and a rare picnic
And don’t worry I can wait for you all to get there, no rush x
30 August, 2012 at 2:36 pm #507287I’d like it to ahve a lot of books..
and I’d like to ehar other voices, see other people etc
but
I ahve a hunch that
it’s like nothing on earth
but who knows? Maybe it’ll be an eternal Justchat where you can’t excape??? :arrow:
30 August, 2012 at 2:38 pm #507288Gawd I hope not! :shock: :lol:
30 August, 2012 at 2:39 pm #507289Having said that, if it is like that clip Mrs T put on a thread, it could be really funny! :lol:
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