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12 July, 2017 at 9:52 pm #1060562
There are many things we don’t under stand and to be honest, there are some things i don’t want to under stand but just stay well clear from.
12 July, 2017 at 9:57 pm #1060565As ghosts would signify some kind of spirituality and afterlife, why do you not then believe in God ?
I don’t see why the existance of ghosts would require an afterlife, or a God. Ghosts aren’t a part of Abrahamic religions as far as I know, which is why my gf thinks it’s a demon.
A ghost whilst not evidence of a creator points at least to life after death.
The only ghost I can verify the existance of is that of my sister. She was my identical twin, so my hypotheis is that if a ghost is some kind of manifestation of a spirit or soul then the division of a zygote two create identical humans would also necessarily require the spirit to also be divided. From this my assumption is that whatever happens to a spirit after death cannot be completed yet for her as part of her (our?) spirit is still locked inside of me.
I don’t have any empirical evidence for this, but it seems to be logically consistent with what I have experienced.
12 July, 2017 at 10:00 pm #1060568As ghosts would signify some kind of spirituality and afterlife, why do you not then believe in God ? A ghost whilst not evidence of a creator points at least to life after death.
Not necessarily…
could be radio-type traces of someone who once existed, but now dead?/
Still, “there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy, Horatio”
Even so, I have phoned the mental health services to see if drac can be sectioned as a possessed woman who sees ghosts yet insists she is not mental. They told me that the ambulance will be delayed due to NHS cuts, and that the straitjacket won’t be very efficient.
12 July, 2017 at 10:01 pm #1060569The only ghost I can verify the existance of is that of my sister.
The verifcation for this is that my daughter has described talking to a girl matching my sister’s apperance. I have never told her I had a sister, much less what she looked like.
I have also seen her on multiple occasions, normally I would suggest that it was some form of PTSD, or similar issue. But I can’t explain why my daughter would have seen the same thing.
12 July, 2017 at 10:22 pm #1060581Demons apparently are the wickedest form of spirit….they can get into the ‘earthly realm’ through such practices as ouja boards, clare voyancy, fortune telling etc and their aim is to drive people as mad as possible. They can possess humans and drive them mad…making them have really bad fits and all sorts of other things.
I don’t believe in such things, have you any evidence to support this claim bar the odd dodgy report from a mid west american newspaper?
12 July, 2017 at 10:28 pm #1060587As ghosts would signify some kind of spirituality and afterlife, why do you not then believe in God ?
I don’t see why the existance of ghosts would require an afterlife, or a God. Ghosts aren’t a part of Abrahamic religions as far as I know, which is why my gf thinks it’s a demon.
A ghost whilst not evidence of a creator points at least to life after death.
The only ghost I can verify the existance of is that of my sister. She was my identical twin, so my hypotheis is that if a ghost is some kind of manifestation of a spirit or soul then the division of a zygote two create identical humans would also necessarily require the spirit to also be divided. From this my assumption is that whatever happens to a spirit after death cannot be completed yet for her as part of her (our?) spirit is still locked inside of me. I don’t have any empirical evidence for this, but it seems to be logically consistent with what I have experienced.
The fact you are talking about a spirit is in itself outside the remit of what is normally consistent of an atheist viewpoint. If there is a spirit that exists after death as you imply , then that represents an afterlife which again does not reflect an atheist stance. For eg I’m an atheist but if I saw what I viewed to be a ghost that would change everything.
12 July, 2017 at 10:35 pm #1060589The fact you are talking about a spirit is in itself outside the remit of what is normally consistent of an atheist viewpoint. If there is a spirit that exists after death as you imply , then that represents an afterlife which again does not reflect an atheist stance. For eg I’m an atheist but if I saw what I viewed to be a ghost that would change everything.
The viewpoint that makes someone an atheist is the belief that there isn’t any gods.
I have only observed that one ghost exists, and I have described a set of rules by which it can exist but other ghosts don’t. To suggest there is a god or an afterlife from this is jumping to conclusions for which I have no evidence.
I can’t prove those rules, but I also know of nothing that would disprove them.
12 July, 2017 at 10:56 pm #1060595The fact you are talking about a spirit is in itself outside the remit of what is normally consistent of an atheist viewpoint. If there is a spirit that exists after death as you imply , then that represents an afterlife which again does not reflect an atheist stance. For eg I’m an atheist but if I saw what I viewed to be a ghost that would change everything.
The viewpoint that makes someone an atheist is the belief that there isn’t any gods. I have only observed that one ghost exists, and I have described a set of rules by which it can exist but other ghosts don’t. To suggest there is a god or an afterlife from this is jumping to conclusions for which I have no evidence. I can’t prove those rules, but I also know of nothing that would disprove them.
My point is that unless you have some kind of spiritual perspective , a ” spirit” doesn’t exist, so for your theory to hold credence there would have to be an element of spirituality implying an afterlife. The fact you have seen your sister after death or a manifestation of her is by definition ” afterlife” ..what else can it be if it’s continuing on in some form after death?
12 July, 2017 at 11:01 pm #1060599My point is that unless you have some kind of spiritual perspective , a ” spirit” doesn’t exist, so for your theory to hold credence there would have to be an element of spirituality implying an afterlife. The fact you have seen your sister after death or a manifestation of her is by definition ” afterlife” ..what else can it be if it’s continuing on in some form after death?
I don’t really why there must be an afterlife if spirits exist. If you read what I proposed then you would have seen where I said that the fact that she is my identical twin is important in explaining why she still continues to exist after death.
12 July, 2017 at 11:06 pm #1060606My point is that unless you have some kind of spiritual perspective , a ” spirit” doesn’t exist, so for your theory to hold credence there would have to be an element of spirituality implying an afterlife. The fact you have seen your sister after death or a manifestation of her is by definition ” afterlife” ..what else can it be if it’s continuing on in some form after death?
I don’t really why there must be an afterlife if spirits exist. If you read what I proposed then you would have seen where I said that the fact that she is my identical sister is important in explaining why she still continues to exist after death.
so if she continues to exist after death , how is that not an afterlife?
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