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20 June, 2006 at 10:50 pm #224835
How about a missile firing destroyer, give them Israeli gunships a pounding,
20 June, 2006 at 10:51 pm #224836:!:
20 June, 2006 at 11:01 pm #224837Ah diddums, toxic is crying, anybody got a dummy for him. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
21 June, 2006 at 8:08 am #224838Seeing as you are only a child toxic, there is an excuse for you, maybe when you grow up you will understand. :roll:
21 June, 2006 at 8:28 am #224839One other thing, the stupid anti-jew taunt doesn’t apply, because to call Israeli’s jews is an insult to Jews world wide, they keep takng about the holocaust they suffered yet they are acting like the Nazi’s, and doing the same thing to the Palestinians.
21 June, 2006 at 3:52 pm #224840The mandate that gives Israel the right to exist DOESN’T include the West Bank or Jerusalem or the Golan Heights. These areas were never given to Israel and are not recognized as being part of the state of Israel. Israel is required to return all the land that doesn’t belong to them (with the issue of Jerusalem being a matter for negotiation). It’s as simple as that.
All this crap about Israel making the desert bloom, they took control of Palestinian water aquifers, they steal palestinian land plus they get billions of dollars each year from the USA. Not to mention the fact that there were Palestinian farmers living there before the Jewish settlers arrived in the 1940s. Maybe you think the Arab farmers were growing sand.
If Israel gave back the occupied territories it would still possess around 78% of what was Palestine. President Abbas is only asking for 22% of his homeland back, no more than he is entitled to. Even Hamas has said it would be willing to recognize Israel and call a truce if the occupation ends. Furthermore, the militant groups linked to the PLO would end their armed struggle once the occupation ends.
Tommy, if you don’t consider war crimes to be oppression then I don’t know what’s wrong with you. Either you’re baiting again or you’ve lost the plot.
BTW, David Ben Gurion, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shmir and many others were all wanted men during the days of the British mandate. They were all branded as TERRORISTS by the authorities.
21 June, 2006 at 11:11 pm #224841@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
BTW, David Ben Gurion, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shmir and many others were all wanted men during the days of the British mandate. They were all branded as TERRORISTS by the authorities.
Along with many other (now respected) world figures) like Jomo Kenyatta and Nelson Mandela to name but a few. it is a badge of honour these days to have been branded a terrorist and imprisoned for it.
23 June, 2006 at 6:06 pm #224842Proves my point though. You denounce the Palestinians but history will vindicate them just like Mandela, Ben Gurion, Kenyatta, etc.
23 June, 2006 at 6:16 pm #224843Or alternatively…… Proves my point though. You denounce the Israelis but history will vindicate them just like Mandela, Ben Gurion, Kenyatta, etc.
24 June, 2006 at 6:49 pm #224844Well Israel eventually got a legal mandate to establish the state of Israel. There can never be a legal mandate for Israel to illegally annex palestinian land without the agreement of the Palestinians. This is because the occupation violates the UN charter, UN security council resolutions and the 4th geneva convention. Palestinians have the law on their side, Israel doesn’t and until that changes then it will only be the Palestinians who will be vindicated.
I know tommy wants to reduce this into a pro-jewish vs. anti-jewish argument but that’s just idiotic because a significant amount of Israel’s own population and many Jewish people outside Israel do not support the occupation of Arab land. I’ve spoken with Jews on this issue even members of the Israeli military and it’s clear that there is a willingness among some of the Israeli population to end the occupation and have a 2 state solution. This is an idea that is shared by the PLO and not completely out of the question with regard to Hamas.
As I always say, Israel holds all the cards and until the USA decides to put pressure on Israel there will be no real progress in the peace process. An end to the occupation of Arab land would be a giant step forward for the peace process. But US politicians need votes and money from the Jewish lobby and Christian fundamentalists so they adopt a namby-pamby approach to the resolution of this conflict. If the democrats and republicans had balls then this conflict would have ended a long time ago. Land for peace is the only solution, anything short of that will not work.
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