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I’ve just been looking a website that says that average global temperature showed a sharp fall in 2008. Given that every year-on-year rise has been heralded as further evidence of global warming, what should we conclude from 2008 figures?
My theory – if it’s not a purely natural phenomenon, the recent global warming was caused by CFCs, as predicted by experts in the 1970s. They were banned in the 1980’s but the cumulative effects were expected to result in global warming for decades. Maybe that effect is on the wane now.
It’s not considered fashionable – indeed it’s verging on heresy – to be a “global warming denier”.
However, I am instinctively uneasy when the ‘great and the good’ involve themselves in enormous gabfests and worldwide agreements, conferences etc etc to collectively moan and groan about the state of the planet etc. (i.e. Kyoto to name but a few).
Inevitably this results in higher costs and higher taxes on everybody – which of course may be the whole point of the issue.
I do not believe in global warming, I think it’s complete rubbish.
There !!! I’ve said it!!!
I suppose that the climate change fascists will be paying me a visit soon.
Well I don’t know about the Global warming thingy but I do know that in recent years the weather has gone doolally.
Gone are the days where you could pretty much take it that between end of May & September the weather would be good.
Seem to remember last summer we got about 2 really nice weeks all told. :(I’m not moaning though – One of those weeks was when we went to Costa del Weymouth! :lol: :wink:
I agree with you completely, PB. Global warming is nothing more than another way in which to scaremonger, execrcise more control over the masses, and dip our pockets in the so-doing.
Sorry but global warming is a fact and despite it being called warming could make it colder here in the UK which, thanks to the gulf stream, enjoys 10 degree or average higher temps than other countries at the same latitude. If the ice caps melt this could result in a diberting of the path of the gulf stream and consequently far lower winter temps.
Oh btw cutting down rainforests doesnt make a huge oxygen shortage as over 50% comes from seaborne algae so not every environmental scare story is true
@pete wrote:
Sorry but global warming is a fact and despite it being called warming could make it colder here in the UK which, thanks to the gulf stream, enjoys 10 degree or average higher temps than other countries at the same latitude. If the ice caps melt this could result in a diberting of the path of the gulf stream and consequently far lower winter temps.
Oh btw cutting down rainforests doesnt make a huge oxygen shortage as over 50% comes from seaborne algae so not every environmental scare story is true
*Chucks a snowball at Pete* :P
It melted before it reached me therefore reinforcing the global warming scenario :P
@pete wrote:
It melted before it reached me therefore reinforcing the global warming scenario :P
*Smacks Pete round the chops with a sockful of organic shyte festering nicely beneath a scorching sun*
Sorry but global warming is a fact
It was a fact until last year. From 2007 to 2008 global cooling is a fact! OK, annual statistics are just a snapshot, you can’t tell much from them. We’ve had a trend in rising temperatures for some decades now – in fact the general trend has been rising temperatures for the last 20,000 years, give or take the odd ‘mini ice age’ when the Thames freezes over.
The recent trend of rising temperatures could be entirely natural, it could have been caused by human activity, we don’t know. We do have a scientific model of how pushing more CO2 into the atmosphere would cause global warming, we also have the theory of the delayed effects of CFCs – but we don’t really know how much or how little of an effect these have had.
The real crisis facing us is the running out of fossil fuels as worldwide demand grows – that will bring forward the time when these resources become scarce. Look where we are now – already talking about the imminence of ‘peak oil’ less than 100 years after civilisation took to using large quantities of oil.
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
Sorry but global warming is a fact
It was a fact until last year. From 2007 to 2008 global cooling is a fact! OK, annual statistics are just a snapshot, you can’t tell much from them. We’ve had a trend in rising temperatures for some decades now – in fact the general trend has been rising temperatures for the last 20,000 years, give or take the odd ‘mini ice age’ when the Thames freezes over.
The recent trend of rising temperatures could be entirely natural, it could have been caused by human activity, we don’t know. We do have a scientific model of how pushing more CO2 into the atmosphere would cause global warming, we also have the theory of the delayed effects of CFCs – but we don’t really know how much or how little of an effect these have had.
The real crisis facing us is the running out of fossil fuels as worldwide demand grows – that will bring forward the time when these resources become scarce. Look where we are now – already talking about the imminence of ‘peak oil’ less than 100 years after civilisation took to using large quantities of oil.
Well I’m not giving up my Hairspray for anything!
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