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  • #461031

    Sounds expensive and time exhaustive Toy, so why not simplify it?

    Go to an employment agency… register the job with them with all your requirements and tell them you want 5 candidates to choose from that fit the bill. Interview them on their premises, let them take out references on your behalf.

    The cost of this service… 10% of the commencing annual salary with a full refund if the candidate leaves your employment in the first 4 weeks and a sliding scale refund up to 16 weeks employment…. impressive huh…. see Mr Meldrew there is a solution to every problem…. ooooops sorry got the name wrong :D :D :D

    #461032

    Mrs T, that sounds great in theory but it is Utopia.

    In a previous career I had to build a team from scratch. We dealt with 4 agencies who all knew that they were competing with each other. They were given a specific candidate brief: required and optional technical skills, required and optional soft skills and so on. I received 20 “screened and vetted candidates” from each agency – that’s 80 so-called suitable candidates. 2 of them were suitable on the technical front, the others fell far short, with many so-called screened and vetted candidates having NONE of the technical skills required. And these were from the top four recruitment agencies in our field.

    This was not a one-off, this is something I experienced time and again whenever we undertook any recruitment.

    I’m afraid that it really is as expensive, time exhaustive and frustrating as Toy has portrayed.

    #461033

    Shush Jen jen… Mr Meldrew will hear :D

    Well I was just suggesting there are solutions to every problem Jen… maybe not a good example but just because recruitment isn’t easy should not deter companies from creating opportunities for young people, that’s what I was trying to say.

    I do take on board that some young people are their own worst enemies but surely that’s the system… when they leave school they should have been briefed on how to present themselves for interviews etc.

    Thinking about it when my kids went on interviews I always worked with them on their interview skills and made sure they presented themselves well. None of us when we were young knew what to do… we all took advice, maybe that’s whats lacking now.

    #461034

    Those who criticize the younger generation forget who raised it :)

    #461035

    @mrs_teapot wrote:

    Sounds expensive and time exhaustive Toy, so why not simplify it?

    Go to an employment agency… register the job with them with all your requirements and tell them you want 5 candidates to choose from that fit the bill. Interview them on their premises, let them take out references on your behalf.

    The cost of this service… 10% of the commencing annual salary with a full refund if the candidate leaves your employment in the first 4 weeks and a sliding scale refund up to 16 weeks employment…. impressive huh…. see Mr Meldrew there is a solution to every problem…. ooooops sorry got the name wrong :D :D :D

    Simple solutions from simple people.
    Why spend 80 quid when you can pay £1500-2000 with doubtful fringe benefits.

    If we were a group of demented baboons randomly setting fire to banknotes, then rest assured – your suggestion would be accepted with alacrity.

    You seem ideally suited to the public sector.

    #461036

    Actually Toy… I didnt always work in the public sector, I do have experience of the private sector too.

    You seem to have changed your tune? you were telling us about how difficult, expensive and time consuming it was to employ a young person… now you seem to be implying it can be done for £80… make your mind up :D :D :D

    #461037

    Back to thread, my daughter has been trying to find a Saturday job for ages now.

    I can only say to her Fight For It.
    Obviously computers are part of the process but shoe leather is far more important. I could apply for a thousand jobs tomorrow without even getting out of bed, while every employer is looking for one who stands out from the crowd.

    If she asks one single question about a prospective firm then she places herself in the top 5% of applicants immediately. So don’t just sit there in front of a screen waiting for replies from businesses who already get enough non-essential spam e-mails . They say come back in four weeks ? Then go back in two. The competition isn’t really that strong. The more responsibility they take for their own actions then the luckier they’ll get and the better off they’ll be in the long run.

    It is difficult for youngsters to put themselves forwards like this, but how can we profess love for our children and yet not educate them in such important life skills ?

    #461038

    thats true toy.. Even if their minds go blank. even a question about the firm appeases/pleases employers.

    #461039

    The competition isn’t really that strong.

    :? Explain that.

    #461040

    Nonsense. Jobs are rubbish anyway. These young adults should be taught to be noble warrior poets – for the sake of their humanity – not CV pushing corporate whores who could out scum a The Apprentice candidate.

    They should be out drinking, singing lusty songs, dancing, fornicating and taking drugs. Preferably with me. Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day.

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